Wednesday, 12 October 2011

JERSEY’S PROSECUTION SYSTEM:

Its Role in the Island’s 2011 Elections.

The facts you won’t learn
From the establishment media.


As I’ve said at several Hustings meetings, one of the great challenges facing this community is the existing power-structure. We don’t really understand why most of our politicians are largely powerless most of the time - and why our government just doesn’t do what we want it to.

And if, in truth, your politicians are largely powerless – then you are powerless.

If you want to understand where real power lies in Jersey – look to the Attorney General and judiciary – and look to the local mainstream media. Those two entities – the legal establishment and news outlets – wield more influence and control than you do via your elected representatives.

The press-release – published below – illustrates the power of both groups.

What you are about to read explains the true, politicised conduct of Jersey’s Attorney General and judges. The document also illustrates just how powerful the local media are. It was issued to BBC Jersey – but yet none of the important issues it describes have been reported.

Jersey’s judicial establishment – and Jersey’s establishment media – both working together, to do all they can to influence people to vote for oligarchs like Philip Bailhache.

Taking  a few minutes to read,  and reflect upon, the facts explained below will give you more insight into real power in Jersey, than you will ever gain from all of the island’s mainstream media.

Stuart.

Press Release:

(Issued exclusively to the BBC – Monday, 10th October, 2011.)

·        DRAMATIC EVIDENCE CONCEALED FROM STUART SYVRET’S DEFENCE BY THE PROSECUTION.

·        EXISTENCE OF KEY WITNESS CONCEALED FROM DEFENCE BY JUDICIAL AUTHORITIES.

·        EVIDENCE OF GRAHAM POWER’S STATEMENT SHOWS PROSECUTING ADVOCATE DIRECTLY AND HEAVILY CONFLICTED.

·        CONDUCT OF PROSECUTION ‘UNLAWFUL’.

·        STUART SYVRET DENIED ACCESS TO COURT AND CHANCE TO USE NEW EVIDENCE BY CONFLICTED DEPUTY BAILIFF WILLIAM BAILHACHE - UNTIL “AFTER ELECTIONS”.

·        CANDIDATE FORCED TO NOT COMPLY WITH SENTENCES - IN ORDER TO SECURE COURT HEARING.

Jersey’s authorities knowingly withheld relevant evidence from the defence side during the prosecution against Stuart Syvret, and during the subsequent appeal.

Jersey’s authorities also concealed the existence of a key witness from the defence side during the prosecution against Stuart Syvret and during the subsequent appeal.

The concealing of evidence and of witnesses is unlawful.

These concealments cause all of the legal proceedings against Stuart Syvret to be ultra vires and miscarriages of justice.

Mr. Syvret came to know of these concealments only in recent weeks – sometime after the appeal was rejected.

He has made an urgent application to the Jersey judicial authorities for a court hearing at which he can table the concealed evidence, given the fact the evidence shows the convictions against him to be flawed and unsafe.

The existence of the new evidence – and the very fact it was concealed – also shows the nature of the proceedings against him to be an ‘abuse-of-process’ and to thus be ultra vires.

But as a result of the dangerously flawed proceedings against him, Mr. Syvret stands convicted – and under severe and damaging prejudice as a consequence of a prosecution in which key evidence was deliberately concealed from the defence side.

Such is the power and relevance of the concealed evidence and the witness testimony, Mr. Syvret has applied – as would be the right of any person – for an urgent court hearing at which the new evidence would be tabled in support of an application to quash and stay the prosecution and conviction against him.

Mr. Syvret wrote to Jersey’s judicial authorities on the 2nd September applying for a court date to make an application to seek some form of immediate relief from the existing judgments which are no longer safe.

Immediate relief was required – as Mr. Syvret is under immediate and seriously prejudicial consequences in respect of the recent criminal proceedings against him – and the verdicts – and sentences arising – which are now clearly no longer safe.

Quite extraordinarily, Jersey’s court authorities have refused to give Mr. Syvret access to justice – until after the conclusion of Jersey’s general election, in which he is a candidate.

Even more extraordinarily – that decision to refuse Mr Syvret access to justice until after the election – was made by Deputy Bailiff William Bailhache – brother of former Bailiff Philip Bailhache – who is an opponent of Mr Syvret in the same election.

Justice delayed – is justice denied.

Any person who is suffering the prejudice and harm of an evidencedely unsafe court verdict has a right to access a court to seek relief from that prejudice. Even if such relief were to be temporary, pending a full hearing.

All people have a right to access justice – and a right to a fair trial – as guaranteed by Article 6 of the ECHR.

It is established law that the right to access justice must be an “effective” right – in order to satisfy the provisions of Article 6 of the ECHR.

For Mr. Syvret’s right to access justice to be “effective”, he requires access to a court before the Jersey elections. Refusing him such access guarantees that the sever prejudice and damage he has suffered as a result of the unlawful concealment of evidence cannot be partially repaired by him gaining some vindication prior to the election.

Therefore, the only means by which Mr. Syvret has been able to gain a court-hearing – by which he may seek justice – has been to refuse to comply with the ultra vires sentences imposed upon him. Consequently, he has been told to appear before the magistrates’ court this Wednesday 12th October, at 10.00 am.

Mr Syvret has notified the court of his attendance – and informed them of the case he will make.

However – given the bias and ultra vires nature of the past judicial conduct against Mr. Syvret, it seems probable that attempts will be made – again - to prevent him from running his defence case effectively.

The decision to deny Mr Syvret his right to access court is already rendered ultra vires by the conflicts of interests of Deputy Bailiff William Bailhache, given his brother, Philip Bailhache’s position as an election opponent of Mr. Syvret. However – the clear unlawfulness of the decision of William Bailhache to provide a timely court hearing for Mr. Syvret is rendered even more illegitimate given William Bailhache’s own, direct, personal conflicted position in the case brought against Mr Syvret.

William Bailhache was the Attorney General – the sole prosecuting authority in Jersey – who ordered and directed the investigation, covert police surveillance, massed police raid, arrest, unlawful search without a search-warrant, charging and prosecution against Mr. Syvret in the first place.

The startling illegitimacy and unlawfulness of any involvement of William Bailhache at all – in any decisions relevant to either the charging or prosecution of Mr Syvret – or, more latterly, in Mr Bailhache’s capacity as Deputy Bailiff, decisions in respect of Mr Syvret’s access to timely justice – becomes even more clear when it is understood that William Bailhache was, in fact, the initial “complainant" – and alleged “victim” – of supposed breaches of the Data Protection Law that he contended had been committed against him by Mr. Syvret – and for which Mr. Bailhache ordered the massed police-raid, arrest, search without a warrant, charging and prosecution against Mr. Syvret.

William Bailhache’s conflicted involvement as a supposed complainant and “victim” is proven by three items of documentary evidence.

Those are: -

·        1: A number of recorded Police decisions.

·        2: The statement by Graham Power QPM to the Wiltshire police.

·        3: The statement by Lenny Harper to the Wiltshire police.

The Police “Major Crime Policy File” decisions (only a few of which have been disclosed to Mr. Syvret) demonstrate a number of things:

·        That the Police Force were conducting a major, high-level investigation into Mr. Syvret’s work as a politician; work he was undertaking on behalf of his constituents;

·        That the “investigation”, surveillance, raid, arrest, search without a warrant, charging and prosecution was undertaken on the orders of William Bailhache’s office.

·        The decision included – specifically – an unlawful decision to illegally mount a raid and arrest against Mr. Syvret, so as to provide a device to “get around” the requirement of a search warrant.

·        That the Attorney General (William Bailhache) was the supposed “victim” of the supposed “crime” of Mr. Syvret.

The statement to the Wiltshire Police by Graham Power contains many, many sections which are of direct and dramatic relevance to all of the criminal proceedings conducted against Mr. Syvret – and, in particular, of huge relevance to the central defence case – namely that the actions taken against Mr. Syvret were an unlawful ‘abuse-of-process’ and a malicious prosecution.

Throughout the entire proceedings against him, Mr Syvret has sought disclosure of Mr. Power’s statement, as Mr. Syvret very strongly suspected it would contain important and highly relevant evidence.

However, the prosecution and the courts refused to disclose the evidence to Mr. Syvret.

The prosecution – acting under the instruction of William Bailhache, and, more latterly Tim Le Cocq (Bailhache’s successor as Attorney General) – repeatedly asserted that there was no requirement to disclose this evidence as it was of no relevance or assistance to the defence case.

Mr. Syvret only obtained a copy of Mr Power’s statement - from a source – in recent weeks.

As is very clear from reading Mr. Power’s statement, it is of immense relevance to the defence case – powerfully showing as it does, the deeply politicised nature of the prosecution function in Jersey -  the many and various political involvements and entanglements of the Attorney General – the “political” interest William Bailhache had in suppressing the effective investigation and exposure of the child abuse investigations – the motivations William Bailhache and his political allies had in obstructing, thwarting, damaging and discrediting Mr. Syvret in his work as a then Senator attempting to politically represent certain of his then constituents who are child abuse victims – corrupt inducements of career advancements being offered to certain senior police officers by politicians such as former Deputy Andrew Lewis – and the “investigation” into how Mr Syvret was obtaining information he needed to represent his constituents in respect of the unlawful failings of the Office of Attorney General to prosecute their abusers. That investigation was named “Operation Adrian”.

Not only did Attorney Generals William Bailhache and Tim Le Cocq unlawfully fail to disclose this evidence to Mr Syvret – their agent – prosecuting lawyer Stephen Baker repeatedly misled the court concerning the document. He repeatedly claimed it was “of no relevance” – but then, after two years of legal proceedings – inadvertently admitted that he had not, in fact, actually read the document.

However, following this incident – in the very final stages of the appeal, having been forced to actually read the evidence, Advocate Baker still falsely asserted the document contained nothing of any assistance to the defence arguments.

As can now be seen by any person reading the document, that claim was completely untrue.

Moreover – Stephen Baker himself is revealed as directly conflicted – being referred to in several parts of Mr. Power’s statement in respect of the obstructions by William Bailhache’s office to the Police wish to have certain child abusers charged and prosecuted.

The statement by Lenny Harper to Wiltshire police – in ways similar to the statement by Graham Power – powerfully evidences many examples of deeply politicised activity by Jersey’s prosecution system and Attorney General William Bailhache in particular.

For example – Mr. Harper’s statement refers to a lawyer with great experience of child protection matters – Sarah O’Donnell - offering her services to William Bailhache at an early stage – and William Bailhache replying to her “I wouldn’t worry because there are not going to be any prosecutions any way.”

Mr Harper’s statement also evidences the fact the Attorney General William Bailhache had initiated a major criminal investigation against the political work the then Senator Stuart Syvret was undertaking on behalf of specific, directly disadvantage constituents who were survivors of abuse. 

A key part of that work by Mr Syvret were his efforts to expose and challenge the improper manner in which at least four highly evidenced child abusers had been let off. Those abusers being Jane and Alan Maguire and Mr. and Mrs Bonner.

In the latter case, the States of Jersey Police Force had been forced to release them without charge, following interference from William Bailhache.

In the former case – that of the Maguires – Mr Syvret had been seeking their extradition from France, they having retired there following the improper abandonment of a prosecution against them in 1998. Their victims were utterly failed and betrayed by the Jersey authorities on that occasion.

Further – the legal representation the victims had at the time in 1998 also failed them, disastrously. That law firm was Bailhache LaBesse and the Senior Partner at that time was William Bailhache.

Under well-established standards of administrative law – a public authority that carries out a statutory function – in this case the prosecuting authority – must not be conflicted in its decision-making.

That is simply the law.

In the case of all and every prosecution decision made concerning Mr Syvret – the function has been wholly and profoundly contaminated with a dramatic and evidenced range of conflicts of interest.

Therefore all of those decisions by the prosecution system are unlawful – ultra vires – and have no legal legitimacy.

That is not because Mr Syvret claims, nor has he ever done, that he be immune from prosecution; rather – the prosecution system of Jersey has become so politicised, dysfunctional and contaminated by personal conflicts of interest – that it has taken itself into territory where it simply cannot function in a lawful manner.

Nor is its operation and conduct – given these circumstances – capable of being compliant with the ECHR.

There is a further matter.

In addition to the prosecution system of Jersey – the island’s judicial apparatus is similarly hopelessly contaminated with political and personal considerations.

The magistrate – Bridget Shaw – who heard the original prosecution against Stuart Syvret – is personally well known to several of the prosecution witnesses.

She is also friends with other parties who clearly have a powerful negative “interest” in matters concerning Mr. Syvret.

She has also refused to disclose the identity of the individual or individuals from who she has taken “advice” and “guidance” during the prosecution.

She also ruled Mr Syvret’s entire defence case “inadmissible” – after three months defence work – once it was realised the prosecution had no answer at all to that defence case and their charges had collapsed.

In the case of the appeal – matters remained dysfunctional and unlawful and non-ECHR compliant, when the case went before Jersey’s Royal Court.

The Judge, Sir Christopher Pitchers, was appointed to hear the case by ‘Bailiff’, Michael Birt – the former Attorney General who Mr. Syvret had exposed and criticised in respect of failing to properly investigate the case of a rogue nurse seriously suspected of being a clinical serial-killer.  The public interest disclosure of the case being the supposed “offence” that Mr. Syvret was eventually charged with.

Further – Commissioner Pitchers – only belatedly – eventually admitted in the case that he had, in fact, had dinner with Michael Birt – and William Bailhache – in their present posts of Bailiff and Deputy Bailiff.

That is nothing less than extraordinary.

Plainly – no person can be viewed as an objective and impartial judge – if they have wined and dined with THE two, key – directly – and centrally involved antagonistic parties in respect of the accused.

This conflict of interest is seriously compounded by the repeated refusal of Commissioner Pitchers to disclose this social knowledge of key, involved parties at a far earlier stage.

Mr. Syvret shall be making a formal complaint to the United Kingdom Lord Chief Justice concerning this conduct of Commissioner Pitchers.

It is when viewing the extraordinary conduct of Jersey’s prosecution system – and Jersey’s judiciary – in light of the above factors – that some insight is finally gained into the extraordinary judgments against Mr. Syvret – which have seen a legal precedent established against independent internet-based journalism that has no corollary or analogue anywhere else – at all – in all of the established democratic Western countries.

Moreover – it is a precedent that purports to override statute law – and replaces it with judge-made law.

The British Channel Island of Jersey has descended into a condition of overt lawlessness and corruption.

The blame, responsibility for – and the remedy to – this crisis all lays with the Office of UK Justice Secretary.

That Office is going to be challenged concerning its failure to ensure good governance, the proper rule of law and good administration of justice in Jersey – in court in London.

103 comments:

Anonymous said...

Stuart.

Do you think you achieved anything today, by going to court?

Concidering W Bailhache tried to stop you getting to court till after the elections and he seems to have got his way, because your next court appearance is not till November 2nd.

Zoompad said...

I would not normally correct spelling mistakes, but I think you may have made one in your title to this blog post in describing Jersey's corrupted judicial system, surely you meant PROSTITUTION?

Anonymous said...

Masterpiece Stuart, your best posting yet. Wishing you the very best of luck

Anonymous said...

Comment left on CTV article about your court appearence. I dont expect it to be published, hence reposting it here.

"Suggest anyone who wants to comment on this story reads the press release on stuarts blog site before commenting. This is what CTV and others should have reported along with the above.
In fact I would recommend that everyone should read it before casting their vote on election day. Not saying its right not saying its wrong, you make up your mind if you consider yourself an informed voter."

JRCbean

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

To put this into perspective, after reading this Press Release, one would have thought that the BBC could have tweeted something a little more informative than this.

"Senatorial candidate @StuartSyvret in the Magistrate's Court today for not doing community service. Could be jailed just before the election"

State Controlled.

Anonymous said...

printing & emailing this post

Anonymous said...

Excellent interview

Anonymous said...

You need to make another Data Protection 'breach' (in the Public Interest of course!) and force their hand to arrest you again before polling day, in such a way as to force the inclusion of GP's statement in the court proceedings :)

Let it all blow up in a way which the media can't cover up, just as we go to the polls!

Anonymous said...

looking forward to BBC live broadcast husting.I suspect that you will be using it as an opportunity to say what you feel about radio jerseys selective reporting.The one occasion that they wont be able to edit,unless you choose to swear!

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

I'm not quite sure what I will say yet; I'm thinking about it, although I can assure I will not be swearing. There are too many important matters to be addressed to be wasting time on such foolishness.

But - which of those matters shall I address?

Decions, decions.

Stuart

Zoompad said...

I'm glad you don't use bad language. I am trying to break myself of the bad habit. Though people would understand it if you did swear, the malicious persecution you are having to deal with would be enough to make a saint swear I think! But I think it's wonderful how calm you stay through all of this, hoping and praying that you win your seat, for the sake of the people of Jersey

Anonymous said...

I have noted that on ocasion people will point out spelling erors on this blog.I am also aware that you have been known to use words that us leser mortals do not posses in our vocabulary.
Before pulling you up on finishing a post with decions,decions I Googled the word, only for Google to insist that I was searching for decisions.I persevered with other dictionaries only to have it confirmed that decions singular or plural is indeed a word of fiction. To empathise i include a few erors of my own.

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

Trevor Pitman/Keith Shaw

Anonymous said...

Let me get this clear. You have passed a document to the BBC.
You wish to use it in court as evidence,but you seem reticent about publishing it on your blog. You state that there is a possibility that you may be prosecuted for passing it on to the BBC.
You are not happy that the BBC has done nothing with it,but surely they cant use it for the same reason,that they also may be prosecuted,and lets face it,unlike yourself,they can be fined big money.
I cannot understand knowing their track record why you bothered sending it to them.I suppose there is a possibility that they could send it to the police with a statement that you supplied it to them,but on the other hand they, to avoid being accused of receiving documents that were not entitled to,could deny ever having received them.There also is the small matter that you dont like each other. That bunch of sound editing experts are never going to want to give you any assistance.
Bridges have been burnt.

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Oh well - that's what comes of making the decion to press 'publish' before re-reading carefully.

But, hey - I've never claimed my spellinj was anything other the catastrofik.

Stuart

Zoompad said...

Pretend it's spelt symbolically, or face facts, the rigid objects luminate little

Nick Palmer said...

I see the JEP did not report on all the questions asked at the St Lawrence Senatorial hustings in last night's paper.

I asked what I consider to be one of the most comprehensive questions by far, yet Ben Queree's piece reduced it to two words in one sentence.

"with a full parish hall hearing the 13 candidates' views on economic growth, fishing rights and the Island's international image"

He chose to solely highlight candidates' views on the relatively trivial subject of Jersey's image. Quite staggeringly inept reporting.

To be fair, Ben might not have understood the question. The Connetable, when passing it over to the candidates wondered if they would understand it. This was partially down to the Connetable herself who at the start had warned that questions should be brief, which is fair enough if people are trying to find candidates' views on speeding or drains but sometimes questions about the really big issues, that have the longest lasting most dramatic consequences, cannot be squeezed into a soundbite. I will give the full scene-setting (plus a bit more) here that I was unable to last night.

I pointed out that Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England, last week suggested that the current financial crisis could be the worst ever (which obviously includes the great depression of the '30s).

Although Jersey's economy is in better shape than most it is very vulnerable to external events - the finance industry depends on a healthy international economy and the continued tolerance of offshore activities. The current external threat to the fulfilment industry is an example of Jersey's serious vulnerability.

Conventional economic thought, such as Ozouf and co rely on to formulate their policies, can only offer ideas to try and grow the economy to get us out of this hole but, as I pointed out last night, wanting further growth in the economy is neither desirable, possible or even rational.

The United Nations Environment programme has identified that we are living beyond our environmental means - globally we are using up planetary resources and energy 1.4 times faster than the planet can supply them sustainably. Anyone who spends more than their income should know what the eventual result of that foolishness is - unending misery.

In the developed world (USA/Western Europe) the demands that our economies make pro rata would need between 3-10 planets to satisfy sustainably.

So, obviously, we are damned if we try to grow our economy further and damned to stay stuck in this recession/depression if we don't - or at least that is what conventional economists would think.

I then asked if the candidates were fully aware of the different economic schools of thought that not only expected the giant crunch but also offer a way out to achieve a long term sustainable steady state economy that not only stabilises employment, social welfare, investment and industry but simultaneously protects our local and global environment. I further asked if they would seek out these alternative economic methods and apply them, if elected.

Well! You would have thought I had asked them how they would run a space exploration programme back in the days when the great and the good thought that the Sun revolved around the Earth! Their ideas are simply doomed to fail and take the rest of us down with them. With two or three obvious exceptions, four tops, they simply blustered and rabbited on with their pet ideas. They seemed to have no comprehension whatsoever of the situation we are in, nor the vital strategy we need to embark on, and yet they are offering themselves up to lead a new States into the future. And yet the audience did not howl down their foolishness, which is explicable because probably a majority of the audience did not understand the question either, so may not have appreciated the significance of it but since when has the blind leading the blind ever been a sensible strategy?

Anonymous said...

The BBC could not be prosecuted for receiving unsolicited confidential information, since that is not an offence.

They could, in theory, be prosecuted if they published such information, but in practise it would never happen because:

1. In the whole history of Jersey's data protection legislation, only one person has been prosecuted, despite several well-publicised breaches of the law by people who aren't Stuart Syvret.

2. The BBC would, naturally, claim that it was lawfully entitled to publish the information under the "journalism" and "public interest" exemptions.

I can really imagine - NOT - the Jersey attorney general prosecuting the BBC in such circumstances. Just imagine the national furore that would ensue when hordes of BBC journalists descended upon the island to report on its use of DP law to gag journalists reporting on matters of public interest!

Gosh, real journalists on a mission to dig into Jersey's dirty laundry basket.

So no, in reality there is no reason for the local BBC to ignore any of this - except, of course, that it is a complete waste of broadcast bandwidth and in an ideal world would be the first victim of the BBC cost-cutting.

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

The reporting in today's JEP on the court hearing is a wonderful example exactly the kind of corrupt manipulation of public opinion on behalf of the rich and powerful I refer to.

Right - bear in mind that there were several members of the public present in the public gallery - and a transcript will also be available in due course. So - we have independent evidence.

Now - consider this:

According to the The Rag - and I quote - "Throughout yesterday's 70 minute hearing the 45 year old repeatedly interrupted the magistrate or spoke over her as she repeatedly asked him to be concise and relevant with his argument."

That description is a lie.

Simply a work of invention - in respect of the key fact - as could be confirmed by the members of the public.

What, in fact, occurred was the complete reverse.

Both magistrate Bridget Shaw - and prosecuting lawyer Stephen Baker - were the ones doing the interrupting.

Both of them - repeatedly - interrupted me - in order to prevent me from making my legal argument - and to prevent me from referring to, and reading out, the documented evidence.

In the final analysis - so Kafkaesque and repressive were the proceedings, that towards the end of them - after about 45 minutes of interruptions and obstructions against me in making my case - I realised the only chance I had of saying any of the facts at all, was to ignore the interpretations of Shaw and just carry on speaking.

That is the truth of what happened.

Remember - when you read the Jersey Evening Post - you are reading the propaganda rag of Jersey's entrenched, rich, corrupt establishment.

Fight the power.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

can they stop you recording audio in court?

Anonymous said...

Posted in response to channelonline's election propoganda about what their poll indicated was the three most important issues (population 23%, tax 12% and health 10%). Probably wont be published.

'Eh am I missing something, but isn't electoral reform the same as health at 10%? Suggests a lot of discontent with the current government. That's pretty important in a democracy at election time isn't it?'

Jill Gracia said...

Indeed Stuart - a real hatchet job by the JEP on yesterday's Court proceedings.

Suffice to say, no mention of Bridget Shaw's absolute refusal to listen to your new evidence, and indeed she was guilty of interrupting you in a most dismissive manner.

At the end of the proceedings, and after myself and VFC had both noted that the three reporters in attandance scribbled away furiously when either Shaw or Baker were criticising you, and writing nothing when you attempted to put your case forward, I approached and asked them in a friendly manner why this was the case. In unison they replied 'We DO write Stuarts comments down' when quite clearly they did not in the knowledge that it would not pass the editorial 'masters' anyway.

This was very a biased and one sided piece of reporting - but we should know better by now than to expect anything more.

Anonymous said...

Stuart,the majority of posters realise that you are fighting a losing battle with the so called accredited media,the good news is that so many people are wising up now and are beginning to see the establishment for what they really are,myself and my family wish you all the best in the elections.

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"Can they stop you recording audio in court?"

Yes.

Most certainly. Any kind of audio or video recording of court proceedings is strictly illegal.

In the UK, people have been jailed for contempt of court - just for taking some footage on their mobile phones.

But in these cases, it needs to be remembered that there is no need to resort to such things, as an official recording is made, and the transcripts are made available to the parties.

Stuart

Zoompad said...

"that there is no need to resort to such things, as an official recording is made"

I have to disagree with you on this point, as a seasoned victim of the Secret Family Courts (7 years of persecution and nonsense) I am well versed on this particular subject. The MOJ - I think it was Jack Straw, I will have to dig the letter out and check - told me that the court cases are all SUPPOSED to be recorded, but, the reality is, they are not. The courts are SUPPOSED to do a lot of things, ie not have the judges and lawyers have cosy little secret meetings to stitch up their unfortunate victim, unfortunatly the courts are not at all what they are supposed to be. If ever I get dragged through those wretched dark satanic mills again, I will ask permission to recordf, if refused I will insist on writing every syllable uttered in that place down, as I would never trust them to record the proceedings, having been bitten so badly.

Tom Gruchy said...

The JEP reporting of the hustings is inevitably censored. My questions asked at the Agri Senatorial and St Clement Deputies hustings were both left out of the reports as was the challenging question from Graham Prouse sitting next to me at the latter.
Without doubt the media is happier reporting questions on double white lines from safe mouths.
I note that Sadie Rennard removed one of her Facebook posts to which I had responded critically and of course Phil Ozouf has excomunicated me from his Facebook and blog sites.
There is a lot of censorship about at this time of year!

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Tom

Jersey's mainstream media - rather like Jersey's judicial establishment - have become so extreme in their bias - the overt nakedness of it all - that we have to conclude their leadership fell into the hands of lunatics and fools.

No self-respecting 'establishment' - who possessed a sense of self-preservation - in any Western democracy, would have arrived in the terminal position they're in if they'd had sensible leadership.

Really, that's how it is. A kind of terminal decadence. The Jersey oligarchy could have enjoyed the customary 'plain-sailing' - maybe for years to come - had they not gone mad, these last few years.

Some oligarchs I debate with occasionally, privately admit their disaster - and admit that it has three names: Philip Bailhache, William Bailhache and Philip Ozouf.

Stuart

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A Greek tv crew has asked "permission" to film the St. Helier hustings meeting.

Whilst courteous of them, they don't actually need permission.

Nevertheless, this has caused some e-mail debate amongst the candidates - with Philip Bailhache purporting to deny the tv crew filming permission - and a number of other candidates reaffirming the original decision that these democratic meetings should be open.

Here is my contribution to the e-mail discussion amongst candidates.

"Whilst it was courteous of the journalists to ask - actually, there was no need for them to make such a request.

The meeting is an open, public gathering - moreover, a meeting of the kind that lays at the heart of functioning democracy. Anyone is entitled to film it - as, indeed, many people will do in any event, quite regardless of this request.

Senator Le Gresley is perfectly correct. It was the agreement of all candidates to embrace transparency. If some minority view now wishes to resile from that agreement, their view cannot be allowed to speak for the majority.

In respect of my political and human rights disagreements with Mr. Bailhache, I have now invited him on two occasions to engage in a head-to-head debate with me. He has refused to do so. This is a surprising response from a man who has the highest possible education standards behind him - including being a professional lawyer - in contrast to me, who left school at the age of 15 with no academic qualifications whatsoever.

Mr. Bailhache also asserts that my observations and criticisms concerning him are "defamatory".

The core issue, around which defamation claims hinge, is whether the claims are true and demonstrable.

My public-interest observations concerning Mr Bailhache are.

Should he consider the evidence would be defeatable in an objective court of law, I look forward to receiving the summons for his defamation action.

Stuart Syvret."

Anonymous said...

BBC Southwest are being advertised on BBC Jersey with footage of The Maguires.

Are BBC Southwest getting ready to take over?!

Anonymous said...

"Mr Syvret claimed that new evidence had come to light and Mrs Shaw Shaw asked if he would like the case adjourned so that he could seek legal advice. He agreed and was released on bail until 2 November." From article on JEP web site.

Is this right? I thought you didn't want any postponment you wnated it all out in open court there and then. Or is this more mis reporting by MSM?

JRCbean

Anonymous said...

Yes Stuart. Keep on keeping on.

Bailhache, Birt and Bailhache are a pox upon this island.

uruisg said...

In the light of the woeful conduct of the Jersey mainstream media, your readers may be interested in George Monbiot's suggested Hippocratic oath for journalists (Guardian 12/7/11). He was of course writing in response to the misdeeds of the Murdoch empire, but his principles express the higher calling that journalists of all kinds once implicitly followed:

(1) Our primary task is to hold power to account.

(2) We will prioritise those stories and issues which expose the interests of power.

(3) We will be wary of the relationships we form with the rich and powerful, and ensure that we don't become embedded in their society.

(4) We will not curry favour with politicians, businesses or other dominant groups by withholding scrutiny of their affairs, or twisting a story to suit their interests.

(5)We will stand up to the interests of the businesses we work for, and the advertisers which fund them.

(6) We will never take money for promulgating a particular opinion.

(7) We will recognise and understand the power we wield and how it originates.

(8) We will challenge ourselves and our perception of the world as much as we challenge other people.

(9)When we turn out to be wrong we will say so.

Zoompad said...

"Philip Bailhache purporting to deny the tv crew filming permission "

Poor Bellyache is obviously camera shy, I suppose thats why he got those videos of him talking about making up the law as he goes along taken off YouTube. Tell the Greek TV crew to put a little scramble box over Bellyache, and disguise his speech so that noone can tell who he is, they could do that really cheaply, you can get a sort of a megaphone voice changer from B and Ms for less than a fiver, its got different voices on it, Darth Vader and Dalek voices. If they did that noone would be able to recognise him, I don't think so anyway.

Anonymous said...

Stu, I know it probably goes against your grain.
May I suggest you do not say anything controversial at the BBC recording as it will not be broadcast anyway and would be used to blacken your name on the night before polling.

You have so many sensible ideas that will appeal to ordinary voters and they need to hear them.

Anonymous said...

"Jersey's mainstream media - rather like Jersey's judicial establishment - have become so extreme in their bias"


You're not kidding. I've just looked at the top four stories on the JEP website and all of them allow comments except the story at stuart.

They probably dont want people posting the truth so close to an election.

I'm glad I'm no longer giving money to these clowns.

PS. Wouldn't it send a really powerful message if we could organise a no JEP day.

Zoompad said...

"May I suggest you do not say anything controversial at the BBC recording "

That would start a conspiracy theory, like the Stepford Wives, people would not believe it was really Stuart!

Besides, simply wanting a fair and legal justice system is considered contraversial in Jersey.

Anonymous said...

To be frank a 'no jEP Day' would have zero effect on them.

What needs to happen is for their main revenue stream to be hit hard.

It needs to be known that anyone who advertises in the paper will not get our custom. An alternative advertising option needs to be put into place for those companies to switch to.

Only then will public opinion affect the JEP.

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Jersey tax-payers want to save money.

Therefore one of my policies is to end any but the most necessary States and parish advertising in the JEP.

At present, there is a "legal" requirement to post 'public notices' in the JEP. That requirement is nothing more than legalised racketeering.

It's a method by which JEP shareholders are able to mug tax payers and rate payers of large sums of money each year.

That must be ended.

Indeed, a lot of the non-compulsory advertising could be ended too.

Last figures I saw put the annual hush-money paid to The Rag at around £300,000 p/a.

Stuart

Nick Palmer said...

Re: possible Greek TV filming of St Helier hustings

Stuart - no doubt the Greeks have an interest in the financial health of economies. Doubtless they will want to know that the rest of the world fully understands the truly dire situation we face.

If we are in a recession, we need the great and the good to recognise it and take action to solve it. Similarly, if we are in a double dip recession.

However, if we are in a depression we REALLY need the great and the good to honestly acknowledge it because even the drastically flawed theories of conventional economics prescribe very different actions for curing depressions as opposed to recessions. For example, cutting public spending is one of the very worst things that could be done and would guarantee making the depression last longer and hurt more.

Ozouf and co are representing the current financial crisis as a recession because they are too scared or ignorant to identify it as a depression to the general public. They prefer to identify it as the (much) lesser of two evils and blindly hope that things will work out OK. Presumably this is because they would be crucified by Joe Public if we started to think that all those alleged "safe pairs of hands" had brought Jersey and the world to the brink of the precipice.

You say this of Sir Philip:

a man who has the highest possible education standards behind him - including being a professional lawyer - in contrast to me, who left school at the age of 15 with no academic qualifications whatsoever

You will remember that, at the St Lawrence hustings, in response to my question - which included the recently expressed opinion of Mervyn King (governor of the Bank of England) that this could be the world's worst ever financial crisis - Sir Philip trotted out what he so wants us to believe - that the "recession" might only be the worst "since the second World War". You may remember that I corrected him as to what Mervyn King really said. What you don't know is that Senator Perchard, who was sitting near me, leaned over to tell me I was being "naughty" to misquote Mervyn King.

Here is a link to that hotbed of revolutionary unrest The Telegraph, 6th October which, I think, backs me up

Sir Mervyn said the Bank had been driven by growing signs of a global economic disaster.
“This is the most serious financial crisis we’ve seen, at least since the 1930s, if not ever. We’re having to deal with very unusual circumstances, but to act calmly to this and to do the right thing.”


I think this shows that Senator Jim is looking at things through rose tinted spectacles and also that highly educated "shoe-in" candidate Sir Philip either doesn't know what the true situation is or is deliberately misrepresenting it to keep the public's morale up.

If you have Greek TV filming, their viewers will want to know that an Island of claimed financial excellence is clear about the global situation and that successful candidates, for the senior positions in the States, aren't living in a cloud cuckoo land where their false and cosy misapprehensions would lead them to vote for actions that would intensify the incipient depression and thereby ratchet up Greece's, not to mention the rest of the world's, problems.

Challenge, in front of a national TV station, the candidates to acknowledge that, if Mervyn King knows what he is talking about, we are in a global depression, the likes of which we have never experienced before and that, no matter how bad that may turn out to be, it will be as nothing if the world tries for standard economic growth to get us out of it by exhausting resources and ecosystem services. These fuel and create the goods and services that the developed world relies upon to feed clothe and house us, not to mention supplying the jobs.

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

In the interest of openness and transparency will you publish the e-mails between the Greek TV station/St. Helier Town Hall and the Candidates?

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Could I suggest that if people want links or comments posted here, they avoid the use of silly & juvenile wording.

Thank you.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

With respect Zoompad. We want Stuart elected and that means he MUST put his policies across to all voters.
The Establishment are crossing their fingers he will go off on one at the hustings.

Anonymous said...

Is it true Rose Colley is objecting to the Greek film crew alongside Sir Phil?

Anonymous said...

Phil

Anonymous said...

"What you don't know is that Senator Perchard, who was sitting near me, leaned over to tell me I was being "naughty" to misquote Mervyn King."

You lucky he didnt whisper something else.

JRCbean

Zoompad said...

Don't worry about Stuart Anon, he knows wat he is doing, he was Father of the House, and has been doing this job for most of his adult life. Whatever he decides to say on the day will be just fine. And if it gets censored, thats ok too, as I am sure VFC will be recordinbg it as well, just in case!

The rest of us just need to do whatever we can to make sure his message reaches as many people as possible.

Anonymous said...

My brother,

So many years have passed since I watched you die, I know that you knew that it wasn’t a choice between you and I

You gave me your toys as a way of saying good bye ,and ever since when I remember our parting, my eyes aren’t dry

Do you remember as I do, sitting on that cold Granit stair, my head wrapped in bandages and you having no hair.

I knew then at age seven that you were saying good bye my big brother and going to heaven, saying good bye to me

But Francis I preyed, and I preyed that it was me and not you, but God in his wisdom knew more than you or I. I was to live and you to die.

So my big brother the years have now passed, so many years, you lying in your grave and me lost.

Lost to a world that I have never understood, a world that could take you from me. I was six and very ill, you were thirteen and looking forward to a world of excitement and all new. I remember your new school uniform hanging in the wardrobe all new and pressed, instead it’s is what they dressed you in to lay you to rest.

Your eye’s were half open as I kissed you goodbye as you lay sleeping in that linen lined box.

And now as then when I recall those things that I wish would die, there are tears in my eyes as I once again say good bye my big brother.

Francis died in 1964

Anonymous said...

Dear Zoompad.
I live in Jersey and know how it works.
We NEED Stu to be elected.

The message if about Phil, HGLG, rapists, etc will not get across because it will be censored. VFC may well be there, however it is the general voting public of Jersey who matter in this instance. Many of them, especially what they call the 'grey vote' will not even know who VFC is and not see the video.

Stu has brilliant policy ideas that MUST be heard.

If Stu constantly bangs on about negatives (In the public's perception) he get a backlash on election day.

Anonymous said...

I was deeply unimpressed at last night's hustings. Some spoke well, but only one candidate even attempted some diagnosis of the dire economic situation we are in and steps to deal with it.

However as you said it makes no difference who we elect there is no programme for government. Perhaps we shall get the lack of government we deserve, and an economy to go with it.

Zoompad said...

"Stu has brilliant policy ideas that MUST be heard"

Agreed!

Anonymous said...

As we walked out of the hustings over there in St. Brelade last night, mah mate Helier turned all green on me. "Grass, shrubs, tress".
"Yes" I said, "the audience was full of plants."

As one observer noted in a previous post, it is interesting how the chairman new the names of the questioners.

The Beano is not the Rag

Anonymous said...

Less than a week till polling day, and just one one husting to go. Can I plead with you to post up voting advice on the candidates. It takes time for word of mouth to spread, so must not be left too late.

Anonymous said...

We need to know who the pro Ozouf candidates are.

Anonymous said...

Use only one vote for Stuart. Using more dilates his strength!

Anonymous said...

"it is interesting how the chairman new the names of the questioners".

So now it's an offence for a Constable or other parish principal to know the names of their parishioners?

What a strange world some of you live in.

Anonymous said...

And the remainder of the people who had their hands raised were ignored.


The Beano is not the Rag

Anonymous said...

Meant DILUTES..............soryy!

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

The point the reader was making, was that it's very difficult - isn't it - to regard as credibly neutral a chairman who picks out people to ask questions, who he knows. There were a lot of people who wanted to ask questions last night who were not selected.

And I know several of them were not known to the Constable - because they complained to me afterwards about the fact they weren't picked to ask a question, but people who knew the Constable were - including at least one overt supporter of one of the candidates.

But in truth - the Constables should not be chairing these meetings at all.

They are partisan politicians - and thus in no way neutral.

Another feature of last night's meeting which was wholly inappropriate - was the fact that assisting to run it, and passing around microphones - were two honorary police officers - actually in uniform. What on Earth are uniformed police officers doing involved in a democratic election meeting process? It was like something out of a police state.

More significantly, really - is the fact that the format of these old-style hustings meetings just doesn't work properly. It isn't serving the public good - because it does not allow the public to really grill a particular candidate - and nor does it allow debate between candidates.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Stuart, there ought to be an unofficial hustings, open to all candidates who are open to address any question posed by the public and willing to debate with opposing candidates views, any not appearing should be deemed to be not good enough to stand!

Anonymous said...

At the hustings I had the opportunity to speak to a person whom I hadn't had the opportunity to converse with for a number of years.

Whilst agreeing with a lot of what Stuart says he said that he wont be voting for him and made his, what I would call, irrational reasons as to why. One of the reasons was the debt issue. On informing him that the reasons of the debt involve the unjust political struggle his eyes just glazed over.
He also said that as abuse is still continuing today (sic - hopefully) why should the tax payer be paying more money into an inquiry where three or four people have already been named and are unlikely to be charged.
"Justice" was a word used that didn't seem to resonate well and the thought of actually punishing the people that knew what was going on and did nothing about it also didn't appear to register.

I had to remind him that he is a father of two children who are ultimately under the care of the person known as the Pinball Wizard and explained why this name came about.

'Computer says "no"'

What he did agree with me on was that the names of Bellwood, Power, Harper and Syvret were 4 people who stuck their heads above the parapet and felt the almighty force of the establishment against them.

So perhaps this person is not a lost cause after all.

/aside
When Stuart came to make his 4 minute speech, it looked from my position that he had the full attention of the audience, unlike when some of the other candidates spoke.
Mind you Stuart, the look on your face when Freddy Cohen was speaking nearly had me laughing out loud.

The Beano is not the Rag

Ian Evans said...

WANT A GIGGLE?

Anonymous said...

David R says (http://jdacmb.blogspot.com/2011/10/senatorial-voting.html)

"Stuart Syvret? My readers' favourite, and, in bygone years, the recipient of a few of my own votes. Still intelligent, articulate and an exceptionally talented public speaker. However, he is now conspicuously broken by his struggles,and his common sense, judgement and integrity have all crumbled to ashes. Vexatious litigation and poison-pen blogging are poor qualifications for high office, to my mind. Deserves twelfth place, but will probably come higher. Hopefully not in the top four, though."

Charming! He's so wrong :)

Anonymous said...

Did anyone see Paul Le Claire's ad in the rag a couple of weeks ago? Trying to ignore the ! at the end of EVERY sentence, we read a great rant against the establishment.

Too late to change his spots, isn't it?

Sorry, isn't it?!!

(word verif - lecoot)

Ian Evans said...

Malfeasance In The Courtroom

haha Word V "louse"

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Paul Le Claire is infinitely more worth a vote than Judy Martin, who is a candidate in the same district - St. Helier No.1.

She is a liar and a crook.

For all her pretence at being a working-class representative - she has been an Assistant Minister at Health & Social Services for years - in which capacity she has been controlled by corrupt, inadequate expensive civil servants - like Marnie Baudains and Richard Jouault - who have striven to concealed the department's many failings - including child protection failures.

Judy Martin was proactively involved in supporting the illegal hi-jacking of the survivors' organisation - and the fraudulent use of public funds that took place.

Judy Martin also illegally gave private data to the crook Deputy Sean Power, who leaked it to his friends who run a pro-child abuser web site.

Judy Martin - like Geoff southern, former teacher with a predilection for 17 year-old school-girls - is one of those make-believe States members, who pretend to be on the side of ordinary people, but - behind the scenes - they're doing what the oligarchy wants.

Get rid of Judas Martin.

Paul Le Claire, Nick Le Cornu - far better use of votes.

Hell, even the establishment candidates would be better than Judy - Judas - Martin.

At least you know what side they're on.

Stuart

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

That being the same David Rotherham who decided it would be a good and credible idea to support one of Jersey's hopeless and incredible latter-day Arthur Scargills - Geoff Southern - in an election he and the JDA always had zero chance of winning - but which, conversely, was absolutely guaranteed to do nothing except damage to the progressive cause in Jersey.

That being the same Geoff Southern who has had oligarchy controllers from the moment he got elected.

The cause of that control being his history of taking advantage of 17 year-old schoolgirls when he was a teacher at Haulier.

You know - I really wish that one day - people like Dave Rotherham and his JDA fellow-travelers would actually do some networking - make contact with some victims and survivors - and start trying to see things from their perspective for once.

Their perspective - rather than corruptly self-protecting, failed, inadequate and dangerous public-sector employees.

And I'm very curious to know upon what grounds Mr. Rotherham accuse me of losing my "integrity"?

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Stuart

If I were a St Helier No 1 voter my first vote would go to Trevor Pitman, multiple IQ points ahead of Le Claire and not as wierd as Le Cornu.

As for the Health and Social Services lot - Baudains has gone probably with a hefty VR package and has been replace by an equaly nefarious ne'er do well by the name of Stuart Brook. Slimy, manipulitave and definitely not to be trusted. Anne Pryke and Judy Martin love him. Enough said. Under his stewardship Social Services has been completely reorganised - good thing you might think? Well me too until you realise that the same people are in charge but just have different titles.

In charge of childrens service - Phil Dennet (he who was criticised by Kathy Bull only to be put in charge of the resultant Children's Exutive that oversaw the Greenfields and other child protetion failures).

In charge of adult services Chris Dunne, he who presided over the appalling special needs service, oleginous, duplicitous and totally untrustworthy.

In charge of older people, Ian Dyer, otherwise known as liar Dyer pants on fire. In charge of a totally dysfunctional mental heath service, best friends with John (cattle prodder) Sharkey and manager of the Child and Adolescent Service responsible for the mental health needs of the children in Greenfields.

And Judy Martin clearly ok with this arrangement.

Just to bring you and your readers up to date.

Anonymous said...

Just speaking with someone that heard you at hustings & now considering you for a vote that would not have been an option previous to hustings so hopefully they will spread the word and act as your media to convince other voters to do the same

Anonymous said...

Talking of judy martin and the JCLA, I see the survivors of child abuse and carrie are being attacked again today in the filthy rag by an unnamed person. Why do the JEP allow such letters to get published, it makes me so angry!!!!

Anonymous said...

Freddy Cohen is desperate to get in.

He has spent the last week putting quater page ads in the Rag,along with glossy leaflets.

Has he spent more than his quoter?

Do they care, because lets face it money talks.

Stuart how much have you spent on advertising?

Zoompad said...

Carrie probably has grounds to sue the Rag for posting hateful letters about her.

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says;

"How much have I spent on advertising?"

I have spent nothing on at all on adverts. I haven't placed any.

All I've used are the basic, black & white photocopies I've handed out at the hustings meetings which have been done for nothing on a friend's photocopier. I guess the value might be £100?

I have a couple of banners left over from previous elections which I might get out for these last few days.

Even though Jersey has - belatedly - introduced a limit on election expenses, still - most ordinary people cannot afford to compete with the many thousands of pounds that multi-millionaires like Freddie Cohen, Phil Bailhache and Lyndon Farnham are allowed to - and do - spend on their election campaigns.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

The sad thing is Cohen could pip you at the post.

For all the wrong reasons!?

Anonymous said...

Lests face it, money is still talking in these elections.

And its wrong!

Anonymous said...

Nick Shaxon and John Christensen were well worth attending last night. I'm glued to my signed copy of Treasure Island and just read p 233 about your answerphone message 'don't be worried about the police bugging. Speak freely, you are not breaking the law' etc. You know, I need reminding of that sometimes. I used to speak freely before I became interested in politics. Post HDLG, its even harder saying "I support Stuart Syvret" at work as your enemies get right huffy. Nick thinks this place is so odd- the system at any rate. Typical of tax havens the way the gov. doesn't listen ever , EVER EVER to the people. And most of us, for self preservation, duck our heads and live in fear.
Shame on us for not joining in with the word today. Perhaps the 1000 or so soon to be un-fulfilled workers may get a protest going. As John Christensen said, that industry is just a scam that has closed down all the small independent music shops in the UK. Well as a Jersey person who played no part in it, can I tell all those thousands of people that I am sorry Jersey greed took advantage of your livelihoods and has never appologised for the harm its done to you.

Ian Evans said...

I heard a little rumour today that the police are to be brought under the jurisdiction of Home Affairs next year!!!

Anonymous said...

OMG !!

Honorary police officers handing out microphones to the public to allow their voices to be heard better - whatever next?

And did you notice that at St Martin's Parish Hall when the power cut struck, the fascist Honorary Police actually went and fetched their floodlights and set them up within minutes to allow the Senatorial Hustings to continue? What a disgraceful interference in a political process which they should have stayed well out of.

What is Jersey coming to - allowing unpaid volunteers to help at political assemblies?

"Stuart, there ought to be an unofficial hustings, open to all candidates...."

Unofficial Hustings? Open to all? Has anyone actually stopped such a thing from taking place? Have any of the candidates (or group of candidates) bothered to book a Hall somewhere to do this? If not, why not? Stuart has loads of his election allowance left over - he could have booked somewhere why didn't you hold your own hustings Stuart?

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

I'm afraid you're missing the point I was making.

The two honorary officers in question - at St. Brelade - were wearing police uniforms.

Another candidate was very unsettled by this, and asked me why police officers were involved in the meeting.

The male officer even had one of those radio earpieces coming out of his shirt and into his ear.

I repeat the point - it is wholly inappropriate to have people in police uniforms being involved in the democratic process in that way.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

At the last general election in Guernsey, the candidates in St Samson felt that the single hustings meeting was insufficient. The parish officials immediately booked a large hall and we had a surgery-type evening with the candidates discussing issues individually with the public in ones and twos.
As a candidate myself I felt it was a great success because the two-minute answers at the hustings often left gaps for some of the audience.

Anonymous said...

i live in district 2 St Helier
any suggestions on voting for the deputy please Stuart ?

here are my Options


BRYANS, Roderick Gordon
DE SOUSA, Deborah Jane
LE MAIN, Terence John
MANNING, Bernard Charles
PITMAN, Shona
RAYMOND, Charles Hugh
SOUTHERN, Geoffrey Peter

thanks a lot

Anonymous said...

With regards to the police at hustings, I recall watching a video last year of a candidate in the UK election being forcibly removed from the hustings table by the police and thus being deprived of taking part.

It isn't just here where things are 'iffy'.

The Beano

Anonymous said...

Stuart you also have the vote this Wednesday.

So given what you've seen the last four weeks, which other three would you be supporting and why?

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

I'm in the process of finalising a new posting.

Could I suggest - and this would be very helpful to me as well - that readers submit comments under the forthcoming posting - listing each of the candidates in their districts - and maybe just a few brief words about each (because many of us are not familiar with all of them) - and then inviting recommendations on who to vote for?

I suggest that, because I'm just not going to have time to write in detail about each district and each set of candidates.

Although there are going to be two or three, obviously - who will be getting special attention.

But, generally - it would be great if readers could be very pro-active and interactive in respect of discussion of candidates.

Like I said - hopefully have the new posting done soon.

Then we can really let rip.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Constable election St Saviour

Hanning dead duck after field 508 & allowing St Saviour to become a HUGE building site,no traffic improvement ideas in 3 years as [promised.

Sadie signed Bailanche nomination paper,so much for no party politics will become another regular at government house tea parties as long as they ask her to sing.

Rumour has it a lot of spoilt papers as voting for none of the above!!! these 2 good enough reason to support constables OUT of the States.

Anonymous said...

I have always voted, but I am at a loss as who to vote for in St. Helier No.2 Deputy election. Not one credible candidate worthy of my vote. I don't even feel there is one candidate that is a lesser evil than the next.
mo.

Anonymous said...

I heard the political expert used by BBC radio jersey explain how simple it is to vote.Probably too simple in my view.What he failed to include was the use of tactical voting.
Casting less than the four votes in the Senatorial election could benefit someone who you do not wish to win, to get elected.
If there is a candidate you do not wish to get in, please help defeat them by giving others your support,by using all your votes.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps Rennard didn't know she was going to stand when she signed the paper? I beleive she stood because no one else had the courage to stand against Hanning.
How many reasons do you want to be convinced its time for change in St Saviour? if you have a vote USE it and vote Rennard. Anyone who went to the Hustings will tell you that.

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

State Media, Democracy and Sir Philip

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"Casting less than the four votes in the Senatorial election could benefit someone who you do not wish to win, to get elected."

That is not necessarily correct.

Whether it's best to use four votes - or just one of your votes for your most favoured candidate - depends upon the motivation and objective of the voter.

If there is one candidate - who you really, really want to get in - and that's the most important objective for you - then just use one of your votes - just for that candidate and no others.

If you don't do that, then you run the strong risk that an accumulation of third or fourth choice votes - the ones you weren't really bothered about, but cast anyway - could add-up across the island or district and keep out your most favoured candidate.

So - if your strongest wish is to see one candidate above all others get elected - then only use one of your votes.

But - if on the other hand - you are not so motivated by who gets in - but feel especially strongly that there is one candidate you wish to keep out - then use all of your four votes, for those you consider most likely to defeat the candidate you most dislike.

But - bottom line - one strongly favoured candidate?

Then just one vote.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

I always use whether a candidate supports taking GST off food as my weathervane. Rennard, I seem to recall reading, supports GST exemptions. Plus she does a lovely rendition of Beautiful Jersey!

Ian Evans said...

AVOIDING JURISDICTION IN COURT

Anonymous said...

agialitcstuart do you know if you are able to check your voteing slip after the election to see if it has been got at. ie. if i vote just for you how will i know if a few x,s has not been added at the count

Ian Evans said...

You could write N/A across the other boxes without worry. Everyone should also take their own pen with them, there is "NO LAW" to say you "MUST" tick anything with a pencil!

Anonymous said...

I would not advice to use pen, I and my husband did that last year and I believe our votes were not counted.

I will use pencil this year but press down hard.

Ian Evans said...

"INTERESTING"

How do you know your vote was not counted?

And what did you do about their breach of your inalienable rights?

Anonymous said...

Ian I believe it was reported in the post (maybe wrong)that those using pen were counted as spoiled votes. I remember using pen deliberately as felt pencil could be erased then being annoyed when I read those in pen were spoilt.

Ian Evans said...

Problem solved, copy and paste the following and print it out....Pass it to the adjudicator for signing after you have asked to do your nominations in ink, bet they allow it, or won't sign :)

Name:
Date:

Dear Adjudicator,

Please confirm to me on your oath of office, under penalty of perjury, and on your full commercial liability by signing this document that "I, as a common law adult, am not able to cast my election vote using a ballpoint pen".

Here The Undersigned:

Anonymous said...

Not sure about that Ian, aren't those who count votes volunteers not necessarily under no oath?

Wouldn't it be simpler to find out if using pen voids votes and get this clarified via media before voting?

Anonymous said...

i think i will go along with pushing down hard with a pencil ,that can not be erased i hope

Anonymous said...

anyone seen oll bayleaf buying rubbers at Collins ,lol

Anonymous said...

Who can supply the definitive answer on this pen/pencil issue before it starts to take over this blog.

As long as a box is clearly ticked why would anyone be concerned about which medium is used.

What is the historical reason for opting for pencil.

I have no idea how the vote is counted,but it seems to me that there is more risk of incorrect counting than of someone managing to erase pencil votes in the counting room in the presence of others.

Would anyone care to explain the process of vote counting,and what safeguards there are to ensure against wrong totals,deliberate or accidental?

Anonymous said...

Unless I am mistaken,isn't it a requirement with any official form fillin(such as income tax)that ink be used. Why therefore the specific requirement for pencil for voting. Seems to me to be an anachronism

Anonymous said...

HI Stuart
I would like to know what happened to the money possibly millions that Churchill honored one for one island currency (after the occupation)to one English pound this money has never been declared or used back in the community, it was transferred we know that but what happened to it??