When the System has Failed.
“It
was about 8 o'clock. I reached for a layout pad. This was in the days
before on-screen make-up and I literally wrote down with a thick pencil
the words "Murderers" and underneath it the sub-deck: "The Mail accuses
these men of killing. If we are wrong, let them sue us".
“After
about five minutes on my own, I walked back onto the floor. The
'Murderers' page was made up with an alternative front page next to it.
The mood was electric. 'Let's go,' I said. 'You can always come and
visit me in jail…'”
Paul Dacre, Editor, Daily Mail.
It shouldn’t be this way – but sometimes it takes courage – and long, long fight – to bring the worst of criminals to justice.
When
I first entered Jersey politics, as a genuinely motivated young man of
25, I knew the Jersey polity was, essentially, a corrupt and stagnant
crypto-feudal oligarchy – so I never expected things to be easy. But
even I never expected that fighting for the public interest would cause
me to have to become Jersey’s first political prisoner since the Nazi’s
were overthrown.
I’ve
just been released from Jersey’s prison after two months – convicted
and sentenced for supposedly breaking the data protection law and
“contempt of court”; charges brought by an overtly corrupt and politicised
prosecution system and upheld by courts, the judges in which are
friends and colleagues of those parties whose failures and malfeasances I
have exposed.
The political oppression I have had to endure will continue – I fully expect to be subjected to further charges - and jailed again, probably repeatedly until I have been finally driven into exile from Jersey permanently.
Although
– as is now evidenced – there were many unofficial reasons for the
illegal massed police raid and search conducted without a search-warrant
– it is an auspicious occasion upon which to remember the “official”
reason for the political repression.
I
say auspicious because today has finally seen the conviction of two of
the murderers of Stephen Lawrence – eighteen long years since that
crime.
And
in no small measure, the convictions have happened because of the Daily
Mail and its Editor, Paul Dacre. The unstinting campaign of the paper
included its world-famous and brave headline of February 1997, which –
over photographs of the five men – said, “Murderers: the Mail accuses
these men of killing. If we are wrong, let them sue us.”
The
cowards didn’t sue, of course – knowing perfectly well that the Mail
would have had no difficulty in showing to a jury of decent people that,
on the balance of probabilities, they murdered Stephen Lawrence.
Nevertheless,
the stance of the Daily Mail, which is not, I confess, a paper I find
myself agreeing with often, exhibited tremendous courage and ethical
clarity. Mr. Dacre could very easily have ended up in prison for
contempt of court.
The
forensic breakthroughs, and changes in law that have finally seen
justice done would not have happened, had the case not been pursued so
implacably by the Mail.
As
a part of my journalistic and political work – and in accordance with
my public duty – I made a public-interest exposure of the case of a
rogue nurse who the Jersey authorities had very compelling grounds for
suspecting of clinical mass-murder. But rather than investigating the
case properly back then, the plug was pulled on the 1999 investigation
as a result of police incompetence – and more significantly, a
politicised decision of Jersey’s then Attorney General, Michael Birt, to
bury the case so as to protect Jersey’s public authorities from an
immense controversy and scandal.
I
named the male nurse in question – and in doing so, I made the
public-interest judgment that he may well sue me for defamation – but I
was confident of winning the case; and even if I didn’t, the public good
required he be exposed in any event. And what made public exposure even
more important, was the profoundly disturbing failures by Jersey’s
authorities in the case.
What
happened is that the individual in question did not sue me; he had no
need to – as Jersey’s authorities – desperate to cover-up their failures
and malfeasances in the case – decided they would silence me on his
behalf. So it was that I was prosecuted for supposedly breaking the data
protection law – even though the law in question explicitly permits
public interest disclosures.
Throughout
the malicious prosecution conducted against me, a variety of abuses of
process have occurred; for example, conflicted judges, the prosecution
refusing to disclose evidence that was necessary to the defense, judges
deeming the entire defense case “inadmissible” just as soon as it became
clear the prosecution had no answer to it, the prosecuting lawyer
repeatedly and evidencedly lying throughout the proceedings, key
evidence being dishonestly withheld from the defense such as the 94 page
statement by former Police Chief Graham Power – and the existence of a
vital witness being withheld from the knowledge of the defense.
I am devoting most of this posting to the statement made today by Paul Dacre, which is reproduced in full below.
In respect of my case, I will just explain one simple point.
By
happenstance, the vital witness I referred to above – one of many
patients of the nurse I exposed - became known to me after the
prosecution and subsequent appeal. I advised them to go to the police
and give a formal statement of their concerns, which they did, in
October 2011.
Having taken this statement, the police commissioned an independent clinical expert to review the patient’s notes.
I
too, at a far earlier stage, had also asked a doctor to be my expert
witness and write detailed reports based upon an analysis of the police
evidence from 1999. The general thrust of the reports of this expert was
that not only could foul play not be ruled out, but that there were
also very compelling evidential grounds for concluding that the 1999
investigation into the rogue nurse had been both incompetent and had
been halted prematurely. My expert witness and I spent three months
working on my defense case, with the full knowledge and agreement of the
prosecution and the court. My defense expert witness submitted his
reports to the court and prosecution.
Three
days later, the prosecution and the magistrate suddenly decided that
none of the expert’s reports and supporting evidence would be
“admissible” any more.
They simply had no answer to them; the prosecution case had collapsed.
So,
what did the new expert clinician, very recently commissioned by the
police, conclude in his detailed examination of the concealed witness’s
patient notes?
“In
my view on the basis of the medical records seen, the most likely cause
of the ------- ------- ------ was ----- ---- ----- complicated by
rapid-onset ------- -------. This may well have occurred as a result of
pathophysiological mechanisms. However, the management of the ----------
was far from straightforward and the possibility of foul play could not
be completely ruled out.”
And that is just one patient – amongst dozens and dozens and dozens – where foul play might have occurred.
I did attempt - whilst I was in prison
– to make a strong appeal on the basis of this dramatic new evidence –
and other, equally dramatic evidence that had also been improperly
concealed from me, such as the 94 page statement prepared by former
Police Chief Graham Power. I was given less than 24 hours notice of the
court hearing – and was driven down to the court in hand-shackles the
next morning. Obviously, I had had nothing like adequate time or
facilities to prepare this application.
The
case was heard by Christopher Pitchers – an English judge who had –
late into the earlier proceedings, eventually been forced to admit that
he had had dinner with Michael Birt – the former Attorney General whose
failure I had exposed – and William Bailhache, the Attorney General who
had ordered the illegal massed raid and subsequent prosecution against
me.
Christopher
Pitchers was effectively sitting as an appellate court judge, on his
own judgment. Having already decided to support the prosecuting lawyer
even though he had confessed to repeated lying during earlier hearings –
and having already determined that, as far has he was concerned the
justification of exposing the rogue nurse was “inadmissible” – it was no
great surprise that this appeal was also thrown out.
I and my London advisers are looking forward, with great fascination, to the written judgment.
Meanwhile
– the campaign - the campaign for effective and functioning justice –
and the safe and strong protection of the public from dangerous
criminals and a defective law enforcement apparatus continues.
It
took fifteen years for Doreen and Neville Lawrence and the Daily Mail
to secure justice and the public good, in the face of an intransigent
and stagnant system.
Eventually, we in Jersey will also win our battle.
No retreat – no surrender.
Stuart.
Taken from the Daily Mail, Tuesday 3rd January, 2012.
“For 15 years, the Daily Mail has led a remarkable campaign for justice for Stephen Lawrence.
Starting
with the February 1997 front page which named Stephen’s killers, this
newspaper has broken a series of stunning exclusive stories on the case.
This
has included chronicling the moves to reform double jeopardy laws to
allow his killers to stand trial again, the setting up of the public
inquiry, the scandal of how bungling police officers escaped sanction,
the key findings of the Macpherson report, the Yard’s decision to close
the case in 2004 and the sensational forensic breakthrough in the case
four years ago which paved the way for the new prosecution.”
PAUL DACRE'S STATEMENT IN FULL
“This
is a glorious day for Neville and Doreen Lawrence who after all the
betrayals, injustice and tears have finally, after nearly two decades,
secured justice for Stephen.
It's
a glorious day for the police, who – after the utter disgrace that was
the original investigation – have through sheer bloody perseverance and
brilliant detective work wiped out this blot on the Yard's history and
shown that British policing at its best is still something to be proud
of.
It's
a glorious day for British justice which shows that, while mistakes can
be made, our judicial system does provide redress for every member of
British society whatever their racial background.
It's
a glorious day for the politicians – particularly Jack Straw and David
Blunkett – who, responding to the Mail's campaign, commissioned the
MacPherson Inquiry and reformed the centuries-old double jeopardy law –
thus allowing the trial of two of the original suspects after a criminal
action, a private prosecution and an inquest had failed to secure
justice for Stephen.
And
finally, it's a glorious day for British newspapers, proving that the
power of journalism, courageous headlines and relentless campaigning can
act as a huge force for good in society and make a major difference to
countless lives.
Quite
simply, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that if it hadn't
been for the Mail's headline in 1997 – "Murderers: The Mail accuses
these men of killing" – and our years of campaigning, none of this would
have happened.
Britain's
police might not have undergone the huge internal reform that was so
necessary. Race relations might not have taken the significant step
forward that they have. And an 18-year-old A-Level student who dreamed
of being an architect would have been denied justice.
The
Daily Mail took a monumental risk with that headline. In many ways, it
was an outrageous, unprecedented step. But I'd like to think that as a
result we did a huge amount of good and made a little bit of history
that day.
In
truth, however, I think that headline had almost subconsciously been
brewing in my mind for some time because there had been a sense of rage
building up in the Mail's conferences over the sheer injustice of the
Lawrence case.
Our
crime reporters, who had spent months investigating the case and had a
huge dossier on the suspects, were absolutely convinced of their guilt.
By
sheer chance earlier in the week of the inquest, I'd had lunch with one
of the Yard's most senior police officers who said words to the effect
that he'd stake his life on their guilt.
Four of the five, you will recall, had refused to provide alibis. The fifth had, but it didn't stand up.
The suspects had been given every chance to disprove the charges against them but had refused every opportunity to do so.
For
me, the most sickening thing was the arrogant contempt of the suspects
in refusing to answer any questions at the inquest, citing their legal
right to silence.
But
it was the devastating report on that night's TV news that the
coroner's jury had taken just thirty minutes to decide unanimously that
Stephen had been unlawfully killed – the victim of a completely
unprovoked racist attack by five white youths – that was the catalyst.
It
was about 8 o'clock. I reached for a layout pad. This was in the days
before on-screen make-up and I literally wrote down with a thick pencil
the words "Murderers" and underneath it the sub-deck: "The Mail accuses
these men of killing. If we are wrong, let them sue us".
After
about five minutes on my own, I walked back onto the floor. The
'Murderers' page was made up with an alternative front page next to it.
The mood was electric. 'Let's go,' I said. 'You can always come and
visit me in jail…'
They
obviously thought I was mad. Someone muttered libel and I remember
snapping – "The bastards haven't got any reputation to lose".
It
was now that Eddie Young, the Mail's lawyer and one of the shrewdest
men I've ever met, became involved. To his eternal credit, he was
unfazed by the headline.
He
reinforced my feeling that the five had very little reputation to
defend as is required in a libel case. Some had records and came from
notorious criminal families with long histories of appalling violence.
Yes,
if it went to court, the Mail would have to establish that the men
murdered Stephen Lawrence, but since it would be a civil case, we would
only have to prove that it was probable that they had done so, which we
were confident could be done.
I,
Eddie and my deputy retired to my room to rehearse the arguments. The
mood, surprisingly, was very calm. Clearly, there were many powerful
reasons against the headline. But there wasn't one over-riding reason
NOT to do it.
The
paper was due off at 9.45 pm, and by now it was 9.30 pm – the loneliest
time of the day for any editor when only one man can make a decision.
Of course, I was desperately aware of the enormousness of what was being
proposed. It's not up to newspapers to accuse people of murder or act
as judge and jury.
But
if the suspects did sue, we would achieve what British justice had
failed to do – get Stephen's alleged killers into a court to answer
questions.
After
about five minutes on my own, I walked back onto the floor. The
"Murderers" page was made up with an alternative front page next to it.
The mood was electric. "Let's go," I said. "You can always come and
visit me in jail…"
I
went home and rang my wife to tell her what I'd done and how dangerous
the men concerned were. As always, she totally backed me.
That
night I took a sleeping pill. Despite it, I woke up at four o'clock in
the morning – the time when all the decisions of the previous day
suddenly assume terrifying proportions. I was drenched in sweat and
convinced my career was over.
Next
morning, the proverbial hit the fan. The whole media went into
meltdown. TV carried our front pages but with the suspects' pictures
pixelated.
The
Telegraph declared I should be jailed and carried a cartoon of me
flicking ink at the Old Bailey's scales of justice. For days, the story
dominated the TV and radio news shows and even made international
headlines.
The
former Master of the Rolls, Lord Donaldson, pronounced his surprise and
horror at the front page and accused me of contempt of court.
But
other distinguished lawyers supported us, as did Doreen Lawrence who
said the front page was "wonderful". Her local MP, Peter Bottomley, and
Frances Lawrence, the widow of murdered headmaster; Philip Lawrence,
also weighed in on our side.
But
perhaps the thing that thrilled me most was the intervention of a hero
of mine, Britain's greatest judge, Lord Denning, who congratulated the
Mail on "a marvelous piece of journalism", adding "it was a brave and
courageous thing for the Mail to do".
That
week we published, for the first time, the devastating pictures and
dialogue from a secretly filmed police video of the suspects which
horrifically revealed their racism, violence and use of knives. These
had never been published before because of legal restraints.
Three
days later, the Prime Minister, John Major, backed the Mail. And on
March 6th the fax machine in the room outside my office came to life
with a letter from the Attorney General saying he had decided, after
Lord Donaldson's intervention, that there were no contempt of court
implications for the Mail.
But
the most heart-warming thing about those few days was the reaction of
the Mail's readers. For days, our phones went into meltdown with their
calls and, God bless them, there was not one dissenting voice. To the
last one, they supported us.
It
was, I believe, a highly significant moment – the first time that many
people in Britain realised that black readers were as important to the
Mail as white ones.
Of
course, that headline, while hugely significant, was only the first
step. For the next few months, our campaign moved into overdrive. In
June, the Home Secretary, Jack Straw ordered a judicial inquiry into the
Lawrence case to be conducted by Sir William Macpherson. Jack, whom I'd
known at university, told me that it was the Mail's coverage that
persuaded him of the necessity of this move.
In
September 1997, we carried a major story saying that senior officers
were desperate for new laws to allow the suspects to be re-tried for
Stephen's murder.
In
December, we reported that the police watch dog had found conclusive
evidence of appalling errors by detectives which had allowed Stephen's
killers to escape justice.
In
July the next year, we disclosed a jury-nobbling scandal involving one
of the suspects, David Norris, when he was controversially acquitted of
attempting to murder another man.
In
December, we revealed that a draft copy of the Macpherson report
declared that the Lawrence murder probe was hampered by racism across
virtually all ranks – the first indication of the devastating conclusion
of institutional racism which would be unveiled in his final report.
In
January 1999, in another front page exclusive, we revealed how not a
single police officer would be disciplined over the botched
investigation.
The
following day under the heading "The Untouchables" we named and shamed
the officers who'd been responsible for the shambles and revealed how
urgent reforms of police disciplinary rules were being demanded by the
police watch dog.
Throughout
the Mail campaign, we highlighted the need for the double jeopardy law –
which prevented an individual being charged with the same crime twice –
to be reformed. Such a change would allow Stephen's suspected killers –
who had been charged in the family's private prosecution – to stand
trial again if new evidence emerged.
The
800-year-old law was finally reformed in 2005 by the Home Secretary,
David Blunkett, a man whom I'd come to like and respect. Many senior
police officers and prosecution officials believed that this momentous
change would not have occurred but for the relentlessness of the Mail's
campaign.
I
always tell people who ask that the secret to editing is to be both
bold and cautious. It's knowing when to be which that's the problem.
That day in February 1997 I think we were bold in a way that the Mail
can always be proud of.”
Paul Dacre, Editor, Daily Mail
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1 – 200 of 215 Newer› Newest»Welcome back Stuart.
Welcome Back Stuart
It's good to see you back Stuart and still strong and full of courage, that must enrage your enemies but I think you will win in the end. Best wishes and good luck with the future battle for justice. Susan from Oz.
The millstones of Justice grind slowly, but they do grind ever so small.
Pleased your back Stuart..
More of the same crap from Jersey's biggest arsehole.
Welcome back Stuart. The right-minded people of Jersey are behind you.
Stuart.
You wrote.
“the prosecuting lawyer repeatedly and evidencedly lying throughout the proceedings,”
Then you wrote.
“Having already decided to support the prosecuting lawyer even though he had confessed to repeated lying during earlier hearings”
Could you qualify, or explain, those statements, as in, what lies were told by the prosecuting lawyer?
It's such a pity the Lawrences have had to wait so long for these convictions. And there are still anonymous people making disgusting allegations about Stephen Lawrence.
There is still unfinished business.
The police openly acknowledge that the attack was carried out by five people. There was evidence to convict only two of them. Three of the gang - whoever those three are - are still walking around free.
The two convicted will be sentenced as minors, under the terms prevailing when the crime was committed in 1993 - resulting in a minimum sentence of around twelve years. That legal principle is horribly relevant, because there was a time, not that long ago, when crimes involving the sexual and physical abuse of children were punished relatively lightly (see what happened to Geoffrey Prime in 1982)
And I have to make the next statement: if only the Daily Mail had been as vigilant in pursuing the State's attempt to wreck enquiries into child abuse in Jersey as it was with the Lawrence case...
Welcome back. The struggle goes on.
VFC
There were many different falsehoods, distortions and omissions engaged in by prosecuting lawyer Stephen Baker.
However, the most brazen and startling was his repeated lie to the effect that he had considered the 94 page statement by Graham Power, Queens Police Medal, and had concluded that it was of "no relevance" to the defence. It was on that basis he repeatedly refused to disclose it.
Then - at a far later stage, when I was again attempting to review the vires of the prosecution, and was again seeking disclosure of the evidence, Pitchers asked Baker a question to the effect, "there's nothing of any relevance or assistance to Mr Syvret in the statement by Mr Power, is there?"
After a several seconds of deafening silence, Baker stared at the ceiling and said, "I don't know sir - I haven't read it."
He confessed he had not read the document - despite have repeatedly asserted in open court, many times during the preceding two years that he had considered it - and would not disclose it as it was of no relevance or assistance to the defence side.
Straightforward, unambiguous, lies.
And - to borrow the words of the Daily Mail - if I am wrong, let him sue me.
His behaviour is another example of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice - and misconduct in a public office - that's gone down in the remorseless ledger in which the conduct of Jersey's officials and their allies is recorded and totaled.
One day, there will be a reckoning.
Such criminality cannot, nor will not, escape the rule of law indefinitely.
Not in Western Europe, in the 21st century.
Not even the Jersey oligarchy is immune from the march of time.
Stuart.
Stuart, welcome back and a happy and healthy new year to you, Would it be worth having a word with Mr Paul Dacre regarding your fight for justice, having finished the Stephen Lawrence case he may well want to get his teeth into some else like an (uncontrolled goverment maybe)!!!
"Not even the Jersey oligarchy is immune from the march of time."
And that is why Senator Bailhache is now in the states. They are trying to fight off father time. The last throw of the dice. The end game approaches. Who is the heir to the Bailhache's?
The feudal line and their cohorts are getting old.
They didn't plan for the future
The big 'O' made a complete pigs ear of it
Walker, Horsfall, Jeune, Le Suer & more are gone they are replaced by who?
Ask yourself why Bailhache stood for election
rs
Mr. Syvret, the conduct of Advocate Baker, as you describe it, is really quite remarkable. I take it that the transcripts demonstrate your account to be accurate?
Did Sir Pitchers subject Advocate Baker to a serious and stern questioning, for cosmetic purposes at least, when this revelation occurred? Had the false claims about whether ‘sufficient inquiry’ had been made in respect of the contested evidence taken place in an English court, and had those claims then been admitted to be false, not only would the prosecution case have been thrown out there and then, the prosecutor would have been in very serious trouble.
If such is the conduct of the learned in Jersey, you are wise and right to keep your ‘ledger’. There must, as you say, be a reckoning for your island’s ‘system’. No matter how ancient and securely unchanging it may seem to its operatives, that black swan may hove into view at any time. An occurrence that seems to be ever the more likely in the face of such stagnation.
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
A reader says:
"Did Sir Pitchers subject Advocate Baker to a serious and stern questioning, for cosmetic purposes at least, when this revelation occurred?"
No, Christopher Pitchers said nothing concerning Baker's revelatory confession. He let it pass - as though it simply hadn't happened.
I think they were all hoping it would go over my head, and I would not notice or grasp the magnitude of the incident.
Indeed, Commissioner Pitchers persisted in attaching zero significance to it, when I later raised the matter as a key point in the full appeal.
And yes, the transcripts do show the accuracy of what I describe.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,
In a blog posting I did just before the New Year I focused on the Le Suer STRIKE OUT
I mention Advocate Tim Hanson. He is representing family X.
Stuart, I know you are very familiar with this case. I would like your thoughts on what the Advocate says below. This is so important as I cant work out who has RESPONSIBILITY for children in the care of the "SOJ"
Remember Sumption said you didn't as Health Minister
"Advocate Claire Davis has argued in court that the States do not owe the children 'a private law duty of care' - they are not liable to a compensation claim. Advocate Hanson said that stance put the Island at odds with European and English Law he said " They have denied liability. The main plank of that is that they say that as a matter of Jersey law there is no duty of care to Children in the care system,which we say is nonsense."
We have 'OURCHAP' back , (not to be confused with the previous'ourchap') .
Cygnus atratus is so appropriate !
Welcome back .
Rico
Advocate Hanson says this:
"" They have denied liability. The main plank of that is that they say that as a matter of Jersey law there is no duty of care to Children in the care system,which we say is nonsense.""
Advocate Hanson is 100% correct.
Quite obviously so.
One need not have any particular knowledge of child protection issues nor even of basic law, such as that of tort, to see that what Advocate Davies is arguing on behalf of the States of Jersey is startlingly brazen rubbish.
The Health & Social Services Committee - and since the change in the machinery of government, the Health & Social Services Minister, is THE public authority with responsibility for child protection.
Indeed, that responsibility is established beyond a common law assumption, and is instead very clearly framed in statute, in the Children (Jersey) Law.
Moreover, in the case in question, that public authority was engaged at the very highest level, in that the children in question were known to, and under the legal protection and responsibility of, the Health & Social Services authority.
That authority - and I say this quite plainly and unambiguously - failed catastrophically.
Failed - not only in the case of those particular children - but many others too.
And as THE politician who carried those legal responsibilities and duties to those children - I am fully prepared to stand in court and state the truth under oath - which is that the Health & Social Services department not only failed disastrously in the case of those children - but is also, in general terms, utterly unfit to deliver any acceptable standard of child protection, and has been that way for decades.
Indeed - it is an evidenced fact, and, again I'm prepared to say this under oath should I be called, the H & SS Department proactively went out of its way to unlawfully conceal its many child protection failures - including concealing the truth from, and proactively lying to, the relevant politicians - myself included.
Throughout my involvement in Health & Social Services, I was repeatedly advised, by civil servants and, in particular, the Law Officers - such as the then Solicitor General Stephanie Nicholle - that Health & Social Services WAS responsible - in law - for children under its care.
Indeed - how could it be other?
The Social Services department is empowered in law to protect children from harm - to protect them from neglectful, incompetent or dangerous parents.
How could the Department have any credible or legal basis for enforcing the necessary legal standards upon parents - when the same standards did not apply to the Department itself?
If Advocate Davies were correct in her argument - a potentially dangerous parent - who the Department was seeking to take children from and place into care - could very easily argue in court that the children would be safer remaining with them - because at least they were bound by law to properly look after the children - whereas the Social Service Department was not.
Let me publicly offer here, to provide Advocate Hanson with an affidavit, and to appear as a live witness on behalf of the children.
Should he wish to contact me, the e-mail address is:
[email protected]
Stuart.
Missed you Stuart, welcome back
Great to have you back and the video with the ball & chain is fantastic... My best Christmas present was a Stuart Syvret calendar !!
Is the editor Mr Dacre still in position as editor?
Welcome back Stuart.
'Is Mr Dacre still editor of the Mail?
Yes - very much so.
Stuart
This bit is brilliant, you should add a summary of it to the main posting where G Power's sworn statement was first mentioned. It's the kind of pivotal persuasive argument that would really convince any wavering newcomers to your blog -
However, the most brazen and startling was his repeated lie to the effect that he had considered the 94 page statement by Graham Power, Queens Police Medal, and had concluded that it was of "no relevance" to the defence. It was on that basis he repeatedly refused to disclose it.
Then - at a far later stage, when I was again attempting to review the vires of the prosecution, and was again seeking disclosure of the evidence, Pitchers asked Baker a question to the effect, "there's nothing of any relevance or assistance to Mr Syvret in the statement by Mr Power, is there?"
After a several seconds of deafening silence, Baker stared at the ceiling and said, "I don't know sir - I haven't read it."
He confessed he had not read the document - despite have repeatedly asserted in open court, many times during the preceding two years that he had considered it - and would not disclose it as it was of no relevance or assistance to the defence side.
Straightforward, unambiguous, lies.
Welcome back, happy new year!
"Let me publicly offer here, to provide Advocate Hanson with an affidavit, and to appear as a live witness on behalf of the children."
Stuart, I think it would be better if you contacted Advocate Hanson as they might not read your blog. These issues are so important for the children concerned. Better to have you intentions logged and recorded than hoping they read this blog posting. If they then fail to contact you then least you can say you offered your service.
rs
Stuart,
Firstly, welcome back, hope you got my card while at HMP. Secondly and perhaps most importantly, what a great result for the Lawrence family, even if it did take so many years. This whole (feudal)system we have here which is so quaintly called 'Jersey Law'is quite simply, laws compilied by lawyers for the sole benifit of those in power and is a 'bubble' that is long overdue for bursting. I strongly believe that the whole momentum of the evidence, will in the next few years become an 'irrisistable force' and it is enevitable that the truth will come out. As a closer, the Queens new years honours list for Jersey was interesting by the lack of knighthoods.
Stay focused.
Yes - the absence of knighthoods is being felt - and has caused consternation.
One of my brave sources has furnished me with another amazing scoop.
My mole has been able to obtain a very recent copy of the latest secret minutes from the Jersey oligarchy 'Gold Group' and 'Operation Salvage Michael Birt's Knighthood'.
I'll post them in the coming days.
Stuart.
Stuart,
You say Christopher Pitchers admitted having dinner with Michael Birt and William Bailhache. Can you elaborate some more on this?
If he did have dinner with them then this is pretty serious. It's like a defendant taking the Jury out for drinks. It just shouldn't happen because it destroys the chances of the verdict being safe.
Recently a woman in the UK was jailed for contacting a defendant during a trial in which she was on the jury. Surely an English judge would know better than to socialise with people who are a key part of your case?
Glad you're back, Stuart.
Welcome back Stuart. Is there any chance you could write a couple of short posts explaining your position at the moment, what you immediate intentions are and how your supporters can help? Some of us find it hard to differentiate and understand your recent court appearences and so can't defend you as well as we would like when talking to those who oppose you.
Back in the swing of things :)
A LITTLE REMINDER OF OUR CORRUPT COURTS
JUDGE SHAW: That’s what I intend to follow as being the test I have to apply in Jersey. So do I take it that you’re not stating that I as a particular Judge have an interest in either your conviction, acquittal, or if you were convicted the level of penalty.
DEFENDANT: Well it so happens in your particular case yes I would make that argument.
JUDGE SHAW: Very well.
JUDGE SHAW: Would you like to make that argument then.
DEFENDANT: Certainly, I would like to refer to a speech given by the Bailiff at the swearing in of Mrs. Bridget Shaw as Assistant Magistrate on Monday 30th June 2008. I won’t cite the entire speech, it’s a matter of public record on the Bailiff’s web site, but I would quote one paragraph. ‘Mrs. Shaw you take up your post at a time when the Judiciary and those in public office in the Island are for better or for worse under greater scrutiny than has been the case for some time. No one can object of course to holding individual members of the Judiciary to account for their judicial conduct, or indeed for their conduct outside the courtroom. Indeed you have become by virtue of your office a member of the Jersey Judicial Association, which last year adopted a code of ethics and conduct, setting out quite clearly what is expected of Judges and Magistrates in the Island. By wholesale attacks upon the Judiciary, this is in reference to me, and suggestions that they are collectively incapable of dealing with any outcomes of the current child abuse enquiry are ignorant and unwelcome and I deplore them. Senior politicians should know better than attempt to subvert public confidence in our judicial institutions in pursuit of a personal agenda’ and that’s the end of the quote. Now using the uhm… objective test the proverbial man on the Clapham Omnibus could be expected to look at yourself, and indeed for that reason and other reasons this Magistrate’s Court in its entirety as presenting a risk, a danger of bias, because these kind of overt partisan political speeches have been made by the Bailiff, the Head of the Island’s Judiciary and indeed expressly made, during your particular actual swearing in. So I would cite that both as a reason that could lead a reasonable person to have suspicions as to your objectivity and impartiality, because this kind of speech can be expected to have made a strong impression on the people who heard it, the people who it was directed at. You then have to say well can they then be seen to be sufficiently objective and impartial. So in your particular case I do think there are individual grounds for recusal.
JUDGE SHAW: Why are you saying that I would have an interest then in… the question is in actually disposing of your case why would I have an interest in either showing partiality, in either acquitting your or convicting you or the level of sentence I was to impose.
14th September 2009- Magistrate Court
Very Interesting
This is what you said Stuart;
"I’ve discovered only this Friday from a source that in fact there is a tremendous amount more evidence of relevance to abuse of process that in fact should have been disclosed. For example, it has come to my attention that the recently departed officer in charge of the child abuse investigation, Nick Gradwell, spent approximately half of his time in Jersey, in fact not working on the child abuse investigation but investigating me and the former OIC Lenny Harper in what was described to me as a desperate (indistinct) for anything that could be used to discredit, smear or attack us. Mr. Gradwell in fact had two, two full time police officers working on nothing else except investigating me, the names of those officers are Mark Kane and Julie Jackson, and Mr. Gradwell had employed an officer friend of his from the UK, paid on a very expensive hourly rate to do nothing except interrogate former colleagues and associates of Mr. Harper"
Mike Kellett by any chance?
And we now know what Gradwell was up to
rs
Stuart, I'm glad you have been released from being held against your will in a state institution like you where an actual criminal as opposed to someone who is fighting for justice for the victims of henious crimes committed against them when they where supposed to be in the protective care of the state.
A murdering nurse as well. I wouldn't feel safe living on Jersey. The vulnerable are not being protected from the predators.
Stay strong.
http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/01/matt-tapp-report.html
RS
ILM has made a statement on the Abuse Enquiry (see Cover-Up TV's website).
As usual the media reporting was terrible. BBC J's one line summary was totally different to the spin on CTV's 8.14 news bulletin, where they put the spin on it to make it sound like the enquiry was only a success in any way because of the Warcup/Gradwell take-over!
Reading a bit more deeply into it - now that I've had a chance to read the statement itself - it looks like ILM eating humble pie to some extent (but nowhere near enough to save himself) to "correct the worst exaggerations" - while of course still insinuating that the original investigation went off course due to Lenny and Graham.
Those of us who have studied the facts know better of course :)
He says
1) That the Historical Child Abuse Enquiry was appropriately managed in its early stages.
Finally! So, what changed, in his view - and how on earth can that be blamed upon LH/GP?
2) That issues of serious concern did arise in relation to the financial management and other aspects of the investigation in relation to Haut De La Garenne.
Not down to GP/LH - who have quite rightly pointed to the blame lying elsewhere.
3) That the decision to start digging at Haut De La Garenne was not so clearly wrong as to give rise to a disciplinary issue.
Great! That must have hurt him to say so! Pity about the fortune they wasted trying to discredit LH/GP all this time!!
"the names of those officers are Mark Kane and Julie Jackson"
Are those their real names, or are they their undercover names?
So glad to see you back Stuart.
Missed your blog so much.
Hope 2012 brings you all you want and wish for
bella
I've had another comment rejected from the JEP's Have Your Say (If We Allow It) forum. I think the best thing to do is ignore their forum, despite it being one of the liveliest online, it's still a wasted effort because at the end of the day there aren't many people paying attention to it.
Let the censored outlet wither.
Excellent analysis and comment
ministers statement
I strongly recommend the posting at the link above.
It is a concise, clear and accurate analysis of the statement issued by the current Jersey Home Affairs Minister.
As described by A View from the West, the statement in question is, effectively, a confession that the assertions made by the Minister and the rest of the Jersey oligarchy during the last three years - in which they have attacked the historic abuse inquiry and the two senior police officers who led it during its early, successful stages - have been lies.
It is indeed, fascinating timing in respect of the statement. Perhaps the Jersey oligarchy are hoping it will receive the minimum possible scrutiny.
What they don't seem to grasp, is that such is the magnitude of the crimes - yes, crimes - such as various conspiracies to pervert the course of justice, and misconduct in a public office - that have been committed in pursuing the cover-up of the last three years - that none of these issues are going to be laid to rest until several Jersey oligarchs and their vassals are in jail.
And we all know what has to happen - before that can happen.
And happen it will - sooner - or later.
As a reader said above, "Fiat justitia ruat caelum".
The Jersey oligarchy simply went too far; their actions in these last four years have been a terminal exercise in hubristic overreach.
The reckoning is unavoidable.
Stuart
'I am reminded..' What a curious phrase from ILM in his formal non-statement.
Could this be States Communication Bureau speak for 'now would be a good time..and don't mention the coconut ,we have instructed the JEP to drop that one back into the 'feed','.
20% Discount on all statements issued before 17th January.
Stuart.
Exclusive Interview with yourself PART ONE
I was chatting to mah mate Helier as we swept the roads in St Martin today that Channel TV must be considering handing back their award.
Mind you Karen Rankin did say on her company's broadcast mechanism the other night that they will be putting up what they consider to be the highlight programmes made over the past 50 years. I do hope that the Gradwell interview is up there for public 'discussion' ...
The Beano is not the Rag
Any sign of Pitchers judgement yet?
Another suspicious deaths story on national news today.It really is quite surprising how apparently quickly that the police make it public.No secrecy there.
xJHB
A reader says;
"Any sign of Pitchers judgement yet?"
Pitchers is delivering the written judgment on the 26th January.
The parties are not being supplied with an embargoed copy - or, at least, I'm not.
Of course we know that the applications were rejected - we just await the "reasons". The written judgment will be one of those documents that there will be little to say about in the immediate term. It is going to be subjected to microscopic forensic legal analysis, and then it, and the critiques, will form part of the evidential bundles for the London actions.
Stuart
I want to report an odd thing which has occurred ever since you left for prison. Whether I use my own computer or a borrowed one, your unique blog reader count does not appear anymore. By my estimate, you should have fairly close to a half million unique site visitors by now, no?
S.A.
Regarding this lunacy of Jersey not having a duty of care to its children: Is the Latin phrase "in loco parentis" contained within Jersey statutory law governing child care?
If so, it could help define your government's legal child welfare obligations.
The Latin phrase is from English Common Law, and means what it suggests, that the state or other entity is acting in place of the parent.
Elle
Interesting to note Elle, and to add to this, every child with a birth certificate is automatically made a ward of state.
This is how the Government gains its right to swipe kids for adoption, or take them into care.
Reporting on Jersey's THREE MONKEYS
Another suspicious HOSPITAL deaths story on national news today.It really is quite surprising how apparently quickly that the police make it public.No secrecy there.
Male nurse arrested in Stepping Hill hospital poisoning investigation
A male nurse has been arrested by detectives investigating the poisoning of patients at Stepping Hill hospital in Stockport.
in law (statutory)SoJ has no duty of care to anyone but the shareholders (not you and me),
in law (statutory) SoJ has no duty to protect anyone other than the shareholders
makes a mockery of the so called social contract doesn't it
does anyone have a duty of allegiance to SoJ then?
cyril
"This is how the Government gains its right to swipe kids for adoption, or take them into care."
Ian, as you know, I am a victim of the secret family courts abuse, and I wrote to every politician in the British Isles at least 10 times, telling them of what was happening, and the use of syndromes that were invented by paedophiles.
I had some interesting letters back, some of which I have shared with the "Freedom" movement people like Brian Gerrish. What I find puzzling is that Brian does not seem at all interested in the absolute scandal that is the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, of which both Ralph Underwager and Richard Gardner belonged to.
Stuart is campaigning against child abuse. He is not an anachist, he was the Father of the House in the Jersey Senate. Stuart wanted to change the way things were done in Jersey, he wanted to stop the corruption. He did it by becoming a senator. Everything Stuart has done has been open and transparent, and he has taken great care to obey the laws.
I was sucked in to the "Freedom" movement, because it sounds right. I am very concerned about the motives of some of the people involved in it now though, and have disassociated myself from it. I campaign against child abuse, and secret family court abuse. I don't think that there should be any secret courts in a civilised country.
We have government and laws for a reason. I don't think that the registration of children at birth is a bad thing, it can also serve to protect children. It's misuse of public office for nefarious purposes that I object to, rather than public office itself.
I think we have to be very careful to stay focussed on what we are really campaigning about.
http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/01/matt-tapp-1-revisited.html
RS
Pleased you're out. Welcome back Stuart.
LAWYERS!!!
To the reader who writes, describing me as a "delusional oxygen thief" - and who suggest that I must have "no self-respect" - thanks for the comment, it's one of the more entertaining examples of obnoxia I have received in quite some time. If only other Jersey oligarchy supporters could exhibit a similar creative streak, the abuse would be much more entertaining.
I have added your submission to my archive - from which, as it happens, I've been planning to publish a selection at some point in the coming weeks.
As it happens, actually - I have absolutely towering self-respect - I sleep sweetly and happily at night - in the golden glow of a crystal-clear conscious - and the secure knowledge that I shall forever be able to look down upon virtually all others who have been involved in Jersey politics and journalism - because I have done what is right - and spoken things that needed speaking. Call it self-regarding if you will - but a man has to have some vices.
And no, as an atheist - I've never regarded myself, contrary to your suggestion, as "Jesus Christ"; indeed, I deeply dislike that whole cult-of-the-personality type thinking. I far prefer a rational, evidence-based approach - which does make the abuse, such as yours, all the more entertaining - given its stoic refusal to engage with the many dramatic examples of hard, documented evidence published on this blog and others, such as Rico Sorda and Voice for Children.
And to anyone who hopes their abuse, irrational denials of evidenced facts, insults and rabid masturbatory trolling will make the cut for the forthcoming obnoxia special - you will have to meet a high standard. So get in few extra eight-can packs of Stella - and try and come up with some 'witticisms' you think might impress your imaginary girlfriends.
Stuart
That man (despite his anonymous title we all know who he is) doesn't understand that although some of us support Stuart we certainly don't worship him! I am a Christian and it is blasphemy to worship another human being. I only have one hero and his name is Jesus Christ.
That person and his Church school educated political masters should get together and purchase a Bible, so that they can understand some things which are at the moment going in one ear and out the other. Some of the friends of that person claim to be Church going Christians, yet they don't appear to have a clue at what Jesus said, and the simple rules that He told His followers to abide by. Those simple rules of life are very easy to understand and can be found in Matthew 19 v 18. I think the middle one is a very important one for certain people who were recently involved in putting Stuart in La Moye prison to contemplate.
Interesting the bit about the level of proof required in a civil case. Why doesn't Nurse M mount one against you? No need to answer that. As you rightly say, the oligarchy have done that for him.
But why aren't the people whose relatives may have been killed or who may themselves have survived an attempt on their life informed so they have a chance to mount a civil case? Or is that option not to be made available to them?
Nurse M's case should not be soley a Civil one. A criminal case should take place as the previous one was a white wash by Oligarchy and their familiers.
http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/01/matt-tapp-files-2.html
RS
Yep - keep 'em coming!
Geoff Southern did indeed have to leave teaching at Hautlieu - because of his predilection for 17-year old school girls.
That's how the Jersey oligarchy have owned him, and tamed him as their cosmetic - yet totally unthreatening - pet left-wing bogyman.
And speaking of the management of teaching in Jersey, there's a whole dimension of the conduct of Jersey's authorities - in respect of just how sexual impropriety was routinely, and as a standard practice, covered-up by Jersey's Education Department, that needs inquiring into.
One of the first serious concerns I began to uncover in late 2006, early 2007, was the number of teachers in Jersey schools that were identified for making inappropriate advances to children - or overt grooming - or touching children - or behaving in perverse and unacceptable ways (example, being caught masturbating in an empty class-room) - or having viewed child pornography on the Internet - and in most cases these staff simply being moved to other schools, or just being allowed to quietly resign. I was discovering such cases - and learning that the Education Department were failing to automatically report each such occurrence to the police.
The Education Department were brushing it all under the carpet - anything for a quite-life.
I repeatedly attempted - as Health & Social Services Minister - to gain full disclosure of the figures of such incidents - and was repeatedly obstructed by Tom McKeon.
Of course - I didn't know at that stage about the fact he was "The Pinball Wizard" - batterer of children in care.
Hardly surprising, with hindsight, that he, along with Ogley and Pollard, was directly involved in the conspiracy to engineer my dismissal - as witnessed and recorded in writing by no-less a witness than the then Police Chief, Graham Power.
In fact, this is a good idea - when I do the trolling-special I shall use the exercise to re-visit many of the core facts of the last four years. It's such a good means refreshing our memories!
Stuart
Channel TV are currently using some old news footage to congratulate themselves for surviving for 50 years as a local TV station (with all that competition too! i.e. none).
One of the clips is of a victim of a drink-driver accident, a close-up of medics treating a woman lying on the tarmac in severe pain. We hear her pleading "Please help me, I don't want to die". It's disgusting that her suffering is being used to promote the TV station. Just when you think Cover-up TV can't get any worse, it does (and if I may digress it now looks like whenever they need generic footage of elections they have taken to showing clips of their friend and ex-presenter Kristina Moore - how fair to other politicians).
I know that the unfortunate lady involved is still battling those injuries years later, with no sign of getting better. I shudder to think how she feels about re-living that trauma when watching this sick promotional ad.
Karen Rankine finishes off the piece with obnoxious guff about the quality of Channel TV, and it makes me want to throw something at my telly! Disgusting.
You are such a sad person.
Just had a little bird tell me Jackie Hilton was a regular visiter at your town residence.
Just be very careful Syvret
What have you done in your previous life , just go ahead Stuart and watch the real shtit hit the fan!
YEAH!!!
Just be very careful Syvret or I'm gonna tell on you....LOL
What a numbnuts, Jonny nonsense and his 12 pack hey?
Well, I would be very sad, had Jacky Hilton been visiting me.
But, really - get real. I've never had any money or property. If you're going to impute affairs - at least try and make them a credible scenario.
And, I haven't actually had a 'previous life' - I had thought I made it clear above that I'm not religious, so I don't believe in such things as reincarnation.
But if you're asking me to be fearful of what dirt you & the Jersey oligarchy might use against me - tough, there isn't any.
And let's not be treated like idiots, eh? Everyone reading this site knows perfectly well that if Jersey's mafia had any dirt on me they would have used it - a long, long - so very long - time ago.
Ah, this is fun....it's very liberating, being a man with nothing to lose....and a whole host of enemies who are truly vile - and who have everything to lose - and whose protections are dissolving.
That train's coming down the track.
Stuart
OH, by the way, whilst you were in prison I named the rag rapist on my blog!
Strangely enough, I haven't been arrested yet???
I wonder why not?
Ian
I take it, that was a straight quote from the evidence I gave as a live witness before the Scrutiny Panel?
You're probably quite right - given this is Jersey - to speak of being arrested for speaking the disgusting truth about protected Jersey oligarchs.
But let's not lose sight of the fact that - actually - we're supposed to be a free, democratic society - in which speaking and writing critically about the powerful and their vassals is not a criminal offence.
If a person believes that something untrue has been published concerning them - their remedy is the civil action of defamation. So rather than being arrested - what you might expect - if we were a lawful, democratic society - would be to be sued.
So expect the massed, illegal, banana-republic police-raid any moment then.
Stuart
All that I own against them Stuart, they ain't got the balls :)
Peirs Baker (Protected)
A reader says:
"Piers Baker (Protected)"
Yes - that's right.
Here is what the evidence says:
"PIERS BAKER alleged he was unable to provide any information but made an outrageous comment that DYKES had abused the pupils in payment for the time he provided in taking pupils sailing."
Police Officer Anton Cornelissen
E-Mail: 06/08/2007.
The matter referred to in that evidence is the sustained child abuse by a teacher, Andrew Jervis-Dykes that was occurring for a number of years at Victoria College - child abuse that various pupils and parents complained about - but which the school authorities attempted to proactively conceal.
Even to the extent of attempting to humiliate and intimidate at least two of the child victims into withdrawing their complaints.
The two staff members who engaged in that intimidation were the Principle, Jack Hydes - and the Vice-Principle, John Le Breton. As evidenced in the Sharp Report.
Hydes was allowed to resign - and his silence was brought with a monstrous "golden hand-shake" pay-off.
Le Breton too was allowed to resign - and was rapidly rehabilitated - by election as a Jurat of Jersey's Royal Court.
A post in which - amongst other things - he then sat in judgment over the former Connetable of St. Helier, when that man was set-up as a scape-goat over the Roger Holland affair, when the real guilty-party for letting the convicted child-abuser Holland persist as an honorary police officer - in which post he committed further child abuse - was the then attorney General Philip Bailhache.
Jersey's oligarchy.
Let's hope those who have let themselves be manoeuvred into defending these people and the wretchedly decadent culture they represent - get all they deserve.
Stuart
Piers Baker is something you'd be upset if you stood in.
Nice one! Piers Baker who I used to work with gets attacked by you again. The man has something you haven't though and that's a proper family. Your just a tosser Stuart Syvret and a coward. If you have something serious to say about Piers Baker then say it front of the proper media. Be brave for once in your life and stop hiding behind blogspot to spread your malicious lies.
To outside observers, it's an interesting illustration of what we're up against in Jersey - just how little notice of plain and evidenced truths - obvious facts - the Jersey oligarchy are used to contending with
It's a sign of a system - like all mafia states and criminal regimes - that its ruling elite just can't cope with even a passing encounter with reality.
The comment above illustrates the point well.
Firstly, the facts concerning Piers Baker have been published openly by me - under my own name. I am thus not "hiding" anywhere, nor "hiding" anything. Unlike the Jersey oligarchs and their vassals, I have - and have always have had - the courage to act openly.
Secondly, the facts are not "lies" - as can be seen from the evidence I quote from the e-mail, in my earlier comment. I have published that evidence before - and, indeed, other evidence, such as the Sharp Report.
Hard, documented, evidence.
Not "lies".
But - sadly, the Jersey oligarchy still cling to the dissipating remnants of their feudal, paternalistic, authoritarian parallel universe; an hallucinated realm, the occupation of which has rotted their brains.
Stuart.
Outing paedophiles in jersey is a jail-able offence the documented proof counts for nothing over here.
http://thebaldtruthjersey.blogspot.com/
An excellent posting by Deputy Pitman
rs
Nice one! Piers Baker who I used to work with
How does that make a fellow teacher feel then?
'Anonymous' at 14.57
"Be brave for once in your life and stop hiding behind blogspot to spread your malicious lies."
Why don't you practice what you preach and let us all know who you are?
About the Channel TV trailer referred to at 21.29 on Saturday. If the poor woman concerned did not give her permission for the footage to be used, then surely this amounts to a gross invasion of her privacy, both at the time of the original broadcast and now?
I must say I haven't seen the footage concerned, but if it is as bad as it sounds then I would be furious if I or any of my relatives had been the subject of such prurient and voyeuristic treatment.
The broadcasting regulator Ofcom recently fined the Iranian channel Press TV 100,000 pounds for supposedly interviewing a detained journalist under duress. This incident is potentially much worse.
If the person concerned is unhappy at having such an unpleasant memory dredged up to promote local tv station she should consider complaining to Ofcom, and see what they say.
Can somebody explain why it is lawful for the JEP to publish details of convictions in the island's courts, including the names of the individuals and their offences / sentences?
As far as I can tell, such information cannot be processed without consent of the individual, and presumably this is never sought.
The data protection law contains an exemption for journalism.
However, Stuart's conviction would appear to render this exemption meaningless. There is no definition of journalism in the law, and Stuart's blog therefore has equal status as the JEP, BBC or CTV in this regard.
So how come the JEP isn't prosecuted?
Can anyone explain why it is that if a woman accuses a man of assualt,and he is remanded in cusody untill a trial date, ie he has not yet been found guilty, that the press can put his name in the paper,also if he is then found not guilty would he have any claim against the paper as his name would have been tarnished? has any of this got anything to do with data protection? (innocent until proved guilty comes to mind)
The reader above says:
"As far as I can tell, such information cannot be processed without consent of the individual, and presumably this is never sought."
It is not correct that such information cannot be processed without the consent of the individual.
At least three established legal principles / effects allow free dissemination of such information.
Firstly, matters discussed and stated in open court are covered by 'privilege' - and can be reported come what may.
Secondly - as the reader points out - the Data Protection Law contains a variety of very clear, strong exemptions - such as journalism and the prevention and detection of crime - that allow "personal data" to be "processed".
Thirdly, there is the right to free-speech - a fundamental component of free, democratic societies. The right to free speech is strongly protected in both English and ECHR jurisprudence. For example, many cases have been decided by the ECtHR in which the Tribunal has - again and again - reaffirmed the fact that 'free speech' is not limited only to the uncontroversial, the pleasant, the agreeable, the polite etc. Instead, free speech by its very nature - to be enjoyed and to be effective - must be protected precisely when matters that are 'offensive, 'shocking', and 'controversial' are being expressed.
Thus it is - for example - that journalists are able to write that the men who killed Stephen Lawrence are "murderers" - even long before they were convicted.
The reader is quite right - I have exactly the legal status as a journalist; the same as those people who work for the JEP, BBC Jersey, CTV etc.
Which is exactly why the Jersey oligarchy hates the Internet so much.
Because suddenly journalism is no longer restricted to their friends and allies in the Jersey mainstream media - who traditionally could always be relied upon to bury all the inconvenient truths.
Now, there is an army of independent journalists - and the whole co-opted apparatus of the traditional media has become redundant. Indeed - just consider the stark failure by the BBC to report any of the evidence from the 94 page statement of former Police Chief Graham Power, Queens Police Medal.
It's looking increasingly as though real journalist will have to expose the facts.
Again.
Stuart.
So good to have you back out and about.... If we get a chance we might meet up for a quick port in Feb when Ill be popping back for a couple of days.... I love the fact that 'They' simply haven't got the first idea when it comes to you... all the usual oppresion sinply isn;t working, just making you, and your friends, stronger.
Stuart, you state that court procedings are covered by privilege and can be reported in any way.
However, article 2(g) and (h) of the data protection law includes information about criminal procedings, sentencing etc within the definition of sensitive personal information.
If what you say is correct, the provisions in article 2(g) and (h) would be incompatible with the privilege you describe.
I don't claim to understand this law, but as I read it, journalists can only report this sort of information by relying on the journalism / public interest exemptions.
Just to provide readers with some more entertainment during these dark, January days - here is some history concerning Jersey's most active troll - a deranged, inadequate no-life individual - who fulfills every stereotype of the billy no-mates cyber-stalking freak - who pours web-abuse upon normal people, whilst cowering under a cloak of anonymity - and making crazed, drunken death-threat phone-calls - and occasional threats to "see what caustic soda will do" the the face of women who have rejected him.
Jason the Maverick
It's another very interesting fact for external observers to digest - that the wretched and repulsive individual in question, was naturally and rapidly adopted as a foot-soldier and protected ally of the Jersey oligarchy.
As the saying goes - you can tell a lot about people - by the company they keep.
A religious friend - who has been a victim of the troll - remarked to me today that they occasionally felt a little un-Christian when thinking ill of him.
I reassured my friend with the words of Samuel Beckett - “How can one better magnify the Almighty than by sniggering with him at his little jokes, particularly the poorer ones?”
My, how we both laughed.
Stuart
Common sense suggests we can't just broadcast to all and sundry that M is a murderer. Looking at the Public Interest Disclosure Act there are a number of hurdles for it to be a 'qualifying' disclosure. If the accusation does not qualify no doubt M can sue for a fortune either from the individual making the claim or the body he pr she represents. Comments Stuart?
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/23/section/1
Stuart.
Jersey Bloggers THE FOURTH ESTATE
Ref, the Public Interest Disclosure Act.
It's worth bearing in mind that that is UK legislation, which does not apply in Jersey - but, that point noted, if hypothetically the question is posed, "did the disclosure of the nurse M case constitute a 'qualifying disclosure' if assessed under the UK PIDA?" - the answer is 'yes'.
Very easily.
All the relevant conditions were met.
Stuart
Delighted you are back Stuart. I have lost touch a bit with what has been going on for you as I was in hospital for 6 weeks from October 10th until end of November and have been slowly recovering from a serious RTA.
Feel I am really back now that I can read your good sense again!
Lorna
X
Survivors are NOT GIVING UP
Stuart
Reassuring that you have complied with the requirements of the UK PIDA. Reading the Act though I did not see a qualifying protection would be granted to anyone broadcasting the name of an alleged murderer to the world in general as I believe you did whilst Minister of Health. Wonder if you could be a more specific as to how your telling the world that M was a murderer was qualifying.
thanks
Spoilt for choice...After ILM's uttering's one can only now presume he will be formally offering an unmitigated apology to Lenny Harper over his (ILM's) assertion it was L.H who 'leaked' info, why do I get the distinct impression that there is some serious derrier covering in progress. Next mobile phone use in cars....easy....take the phone, remove sim card, give sim card back to owner (covers Data Protection)...crush phone, give crushed phone back to owner...job done. Next following naming of nurse in U.K, presumably an apology will be coming your way Stuart. Next..sometime this month the Green Island Lotus driver will, perhaps, maybe be sentenced, you see Stuart this is where you went wrong, you name an individual who may well be responsible for murder and YOU go to jail, this guy is responsible for the death of a young woman and he get's WHAT????. Funny old world is it not (based on Jersey Standards of course)
Saw a picture in the daily liar (jep) today, Mr Bailhache and Mr Gorst Mr Bailhache is sitting on the right hand side of Mr Gorst looking as if he is his right hand man, and they both appear to be joined at the hip.
A reader say:
"Reassuring that you have complied with the requirements of the UK PIDA. Reading the Act though I did not see a qualifying protection would be granted to anyone broadcasting the name of an alleged murderer to the world in general as I believe you did whilst Minister of Health. Wonder if you could be a more specific as to how your telling the world that M was a murderer was qualifying."
You fail to be consistent in your analogy. You posed the question as to whether - if in an applicable context - the naming of nurse M as a murderer would have been protected by the UK PIDA. I replied that it would.
But you now pose what is, in effect, a different question.
You now ask whether citing the PIDA would have protected a person from a defamation action for having named nurse M as a murderer.
In the context of defamation, recourse to the PIDA is not necessary. Defamation is a common law cause. If the defendant in the action can satisfy the established tests - for example, on the balance of probabilities, what they have alleged is true - then that's that.
The person who made the original claim, wins - the plaintiff loses.
The existence of statute legislation, such as the PIDA, is an irrelevance.
Stuart.
Stuart.
Is now, not the time for you to release a redacted version of the Former Police Chief's response to the Wiltshire Report. Seeing that its been in the possesion of The BBC for 3 months, without a squeack of it from them.
Surely to give The BBC one last chance to report on it would be a good way forward.
For example:
Email The BBC with a deadline for them to reporton it, of say 2 weeks.
And if they dont report it redacted or not....
You will!?
I am a baffled about something quite important-if there really is an orchestrated 'Jersey cover up' going on, (and in the past the clearly ludicrous sentencing of Major Riley has been cited as an example of evidence of one, along with the Shaun Ryder case etc) my question is why any higher profile people ever actually get to court in the first place? Surely then the damage is done? There are reporters in just about every court in the world and once the name is out then there is little more damage to the islands reputation that can be done. There are some well publicised (by the JEP) prosecutions going on now, and they have referred to other equally 'establishment' people in the past being done for things. I don't get it.
Anonymous at 11.20 AM
BBC Jersey might have mentioned it already - perhaps a 15 second piece at 5am or some other time when no-one is listening or is fast asleep. That way they can say they are covering contentious issues without upsetting their masters.
It's a classic BBC tactic (and not restricted to Radio Jersey, it is prevalent right across the organisation's output) that allows them to maintain the pretence of 'balance' and 'impartiality' but not rock the boat too much.
Anonymous at 14.47
You make a good point but I can think of several instances referred to on this site where establishment figures or their relatives have been caught red handed but let off scot-free. I am talking about attempted rapes, major drug importation etc.
As for me, I have long wondered just how Edward Paisnel - the so-called 'Beast of Jersey' - evaded capture for so long on such a small island? Was he that much cleverer than the local police, or merely very lucky?
Or perhaps he just had the good sense to confine himself to the offspring of the 'little people' over there?
I am sure sure Stuart and others can jog our memories of these and other incidents...
Anonymous @14.47
Which establishment people did you have in mind? I can't remember too many 'insiders' being hauled through the courts over the past few decades.
JEP own Comment At the heart of Island life since 1890 piece. Page 10 Tue 10th Jan 2012
Policeman who blew the Whistle
Home Affairs Minister Ian Le Marquand has criticised Mick Gradwell, the detective who swept up the mess left in the wake of the historical child abuse inquiry, for leaking information to the press. Senator Le Marquand was right to do so, but it is only fair to ask why the detective felt compelled to spill the beans to the national media, notably the Daily Mail.
Mr. Gradwell was brought in after the retirement of the deputy chief officer of the States Police, Lenny Harper, to try to make sense of an inquiry which had dragged Jersey's good name through the mud but had resulted in few prosecutions and no evidence whatsoever of the high-level conspiracies and cover-ups that some still continue to insist must have been at the heart of the matter. What his inquiries revealed clearly conflicted with the standards that he believed should characterise a properly conducted investigation into alleged crimes of the most serious nature.
Wrongly he reached the conclusion that the botched business should receive the oxygen of publicity at the earliest possible moment. That he should of waited until the official report into the whole matter could be published is beyond question.
However, if Mr Gradwell's timing was at fault as far as the dissemination of information was concerned, the findings of his inquiry remain as sound as they ever were. Criticism of his unprofessional handling of the information he gathered does not undermine the conclusions he was forced to draw from what he discovered relating to the chaotic search at Haut de la Garenne and to the resources that had been poured into the case. He had quite correctly identified the frantic pursuit of forensic evidence that was never there and the profligate expenditure of public funds that ensued in that fruitless effort.
We might call Mr. Gradwell a whistleblower, though, it must be said, one could have envisaged the legitimate means of publishing information which the public deserved to hear without resorting to whistle-blowing. If he deserves that label, it is ironic that those who are keenest to attack his approach and his findings are very eager to uphold the general principle of whistleblowing - provided that it suit their agenda and their entrenched interpretation of the whole Haut de la Garenne debacle.
End.
What information exactly did Mr. Gradwell whistleblow? No dead bodies? Where did Mr. Harper ever claim this? Brought in to make sense of an inquiry which had dragged Jersey's good name through the mud? Says it all.
Resulted in few prosecutions? who closed the case why so few prosectuions? Speak to the law officers. Botched business? claim JEP Gradwell or Le Maruand?
Where can I read Mr Gradwells findings the JEP article hangs its hat on?
The "Filthy Rag" are LYING again!
Stuart,
I have been recently watching the UK open parlimentary enquiry with regard to the phone hacking debacle and I have to say seeing Murdock and son, plus others being given a real good going over by the committee WHY is this kind of open question and answer enquiry not available to us here in Jersey??. I would just love to see the power brokers of this Island being put under REAL pressure to answer questions about their involvevment (under oath)of the goings on over the past few years, this would without doubt save us taxpayers millions in useless reports, investigations etc. why because perjury means JAIL.....ah well wishful thinking!! OR IS IT??
That kind of open question and answer inquiry is available in Jersey.
The Scrutiny Panels have those powers and remit.
A specific Committee of Inquiry would have even clearer powers.
The mechanisms are there.
The political will is not.
Stuart
I must say, that latest troll comment is especially impressive!
I'm saving that one for the obnoxia special.
You "perform" so much better at Stella o'clock, Jon, you should save all your submissions for this time of night.
Stuart
Any more for any more?
Stuart
I quote: "BBC Jersey might have mentioned it already - perhaps a 15 second piece at 5am or some other time when no-one is listening or is fast asleep."
No I mean front page JEP for prosecutions of magistrates in the past. One is still pending.
And:
"Which establishment people did you have in mind? I can't remember too many 'insiders' being hauled through the courts over the past few decades."
There are several lawyers and accountants doing time at la Moye right now, Michel etc.
All systems are open to having some corrupt people in them (usually do)~ but I'm trying to see how a corrupt system allows judges lawyers and accountants to get to court, have their arrests publicised by an alleged organ of state propaganda and to go to prison. I'm really struggling with that. Once the allegation is in court it's mostly too late to save a 'good name'. A corrupt system has those at the top with a machinery of control-so the police (in our case centeniers as they have the discretion and authority not to prosecute)would be tasked with either preventing a charge being brought (so no court appearance) or with fitting someone up to carry the can.
The JEP editorial, being such utter disproven nonsense, has finally proven without a shadow of a doubt that they are conplicit in the child abuse cover-up. The editor should be investigated by the police (if we had a force leadership we could trust) under suspicion of child abuse denying motives.
Having read the sickening JEP editorial, I am baffled how JEP 'journalists' can bear to work for them.
I wouldn't openly suggesting spitting at JEP reporters in the street, but By God I couldn't have more contempt for the whole organisation than I do right now!
Disgraceful rag!
That's an interesting - if somewhat naive comment.
It makes the fundamental mistake of assuming that the wealthy and powerful never fall-out with those controlling the syndicate.
That's a seriously mistaken view.
There are several reasons why those in the money - or in authority - will find themselves targeted with the full might of the mafia bosses.
Here's a few examples and reasons - drawn from real-world cases of which I am aware.
Though some might be forgiven for thinking otherwise in Jersey - not all rich, influential people are ethically bankrupt shysters. Quite a number do have a conscience - and will stand out against their peer-group in order to do the right thing. That has, in some cases, enraged the powers-that-be. And there are few more dramatic threats to a bent and rotten system than 'insiders' who do not conform. They must be crushed - in ways that discredit them - and which serve as a powerful example and warning to any others like them who might get the same ideas.
Another reason why some well-placed individuals get moved against by 'the apparatus' is because they are simply "in the way"; they, in the position they occupy, pose an inconvenience or more serious problem or obstruction, to some broader plan by the oligarchy - so they have to be passively 'disposed of' - in some form of "soft assassination". The suspended magistrate in question falls squarely into that category.
Another reason why some wealthy and influential people are targeted by the system is the traditional mafia reason - in that they've failed to bend to the "protection racket"; they don't cross the right palms with silver from their large fortune - thus drawing the attention of bent police officers (states and honorary) and bent prosecutors.
And, a further, more sophisticated version of the last motive - and a Jersey mafia special - is the parallel economy - unpublished and non transparently audited - known as the Criminal Offences Confiscation Fund - which is THE core racket and slush-fund of the Jersey oligarchy. That fund - in order to carry on funding the various hidden "revenue expenditures" of Jersey's "government within a government", and keeping its operatives and their allies in the style to which they have become accustomed - has to be routinely topped-up - by Big-Money convictions and asset seizures. One or two very wealthy - yet 'un-connected' and thus 'disposable' individuals have to be targeted each year by the Attorney General's office in order to keep that opaque parallel economy in funds.
So - don;t ever make the mistake of assuming there is a blanket and inevitable immunity granted to the rich and powerful in Jersey. There isn't. No system - no syndicate like the Jersey oligarchy - survives as long as it has - without the tools, methods - and willingness - to occasionally nail the powerful.
Stuart
Can anyone explain firstly has the Pottery as stated in the daily liar (jep)last evening,actually been sold to Dandara, has it been through court? the reason I ask is that when properties go through Court as ours did recently,the price is advertised in the daily liar at the end of each month,so why in an article last evening do they say that the potteries site has been sold to dandara for an undisclosed sum??
Stuart,
I am pleased to see you return to the fight with renewed vigour. I sincerely wish you a happy, healthy and "fair" year for 2012. That you finally get to achieve justice for the victims.
Jersey is off my holiday destination list. I do not care to go somewhere that protects people who abuse,rape, torture and murder children. This in addition to welcoming crooks of other inclinations. Then, for an island that flourishes on the black money that pours in, it is possible that corruption has become the norm from being so endemic for so long. Whatever the reasons, Jersey will not be seeing my money, or presence.
It is true to say, that wherever we are, the judicial, court, system is corrupted by those who have much to gain. This can be the state, or the solicitors, barristers and judges who get fat from their fees. Like the banana republics, the courts are used to silence and oppress those who have been wronged, or are innocent of crimes but are nevertheless tried for them.
This needs for us all to think outside the frame for solutions. The oppressors in history have been defeated by tactics invented for the occasions and crimes. I have some ideas, no doubt others do too. Hasta la victoria siempre!
Frances.
It is suggested that the jep recieves in excess of £300,000 from the states each year, where would they be without this money,small wonder they don,t rock the boat by digging deeper into the corropution going on in this Island, saying that, I thought they might have changed when they tried to find out about "GOLDEN HANDSHAKES" but again they were soon reminded what policy should be followed,and there is nobody at the jep with the balls to persue the matter.
Naivety-or insightful?
It is the 'good name of Jersey' factor that is the problem for me. Surely the best way to do as you say, to remove those who are inconvenient, would be to not prosecute, but demand instead the person's resignation, on a blackmail basis. That way the 'good name of Jersey' is not dragged into a court case (because any publicity about a high-up person getting in trouble is bad publicity for Jersey). Once the person has been prosecuted (and there's always the risk of an aquittal, which would really screw things up) then the 'oligarchs' have lost their hold on the person. Better, far better, to lean on the victim. I still can't resolve this problem.
Bailiff
Deputy Bailiff
AG
SG
Crown Advocates
States Greffier
Dept. States Greffier
Judicial Greffier
Dept. Judicial Greffier
Dept. Viscount
Court Greffes
Magistrates (all 4)
Philip Bailache
All members of the exclusive private clubs Law Society of jersey/ Bar Association
are we getting the picture?
cyril
A reader says:
"Once the person has been prosecuted (and there's always the risk of an acquittal, which would really screw things up".
Now - that is naive.
You assume Jersey has a fair, non-corrupted, properly functioning judiciary.
It does not.
Name me a single case from the last 40 years in which the Jersey oligarchy had a big "stake" - and in which the accused was acquitted?
You can't - because there isn't one.
Indeed - during the last 18 months I have made something of a study of a number of different cases - civil as well as criminal - that have been before Jersey's courts - including the court of appeal - and there are some truly remarkable - really quiet startling - judgments to be observed. And by no means am I referring only to my cases.
Jersey will never have a properly functioning judiciary until the Jurats system is scrapped - and London takes direct oversight of the judicial function in Jersey (as it should do for the Crown Dependencies in any event. The notion that places so small and socially incestuous can safely and lawfully run their own judiciary is a manifest insult to the intelligence.)
And do not make the further mistake of thinking that it will always look bad for the Jersey oligarchy if a few rich, influential people are prosecuted. By no means is that the case. On the contrary - a syndicate like Jersey's require - actively needs - a few such people to be prosecuted now and again - for appearances sake; for PR cosmetic reasons. So much so - that if no wealthy individual ever fell into their net as a result of actual crime - they'd have to fit-up the occasional victim - or ensure they found them guilty - no mater that they had a rock-solid defence.
Like - oh, just for example - being charged and convicted of a supposed money-laundering "offence" - that was not even a crime - that was not a legally prohibited action - at the time it was done - but only became a crime some two or three years after the event.
Yes - as insane as that sounds - determining that someone "committed a crime" - retrospectively - once you've introduce a law - three years later - is an example of Jersey "justice" for you. And that is one of the examples of the conduct of Jersey's appeal court - which upheld such madness.
That case is a very pertinent example in the other ways as well. A safely "disposable" victim, to be prosecuted (a foreigner, you see, and from an ethnic minority too) - and Big Money case - a conviction in which thus allowed a huge seizure of money to be made - and added to the parallel economy of the Criminal Offences Confiscation Fund.
A fund which can then keep a large range of lawyers and judges (in Jersey and London) in the style to which they are accustomed for a few more years.
Neat, eh?
And what chance of the racket ever, ever being exposed - when its operatives and beneficiaries ARE THE LAW - bent cops, layers, prosecutors, judges?
That's why the Jersey mafia doesn't need anything so crude and vulgar as hit-men.
They are wholly impervious - and can destroy their enemies in other ways.
Stuart
Well, when I say the Jersey mafia doesn't need hit-men - I'm referring to how things used to work - when they were safe.
There system doesn't work anymore - and they are not safe. Indeed - many powerful people and institutions are now at the most serious of risks. And I'm not referring only to within Jersey.
I have serious grounds for fearing for my life.
Should I have an "unfortunate accident" anytime soon - it won't have been an accident.
Stuart
Stuart says: 'Indeed - many powerful people and institutions are now at the most serious of risks. And I'm not referring only to within Jersey.'
What people, institutions, what risks?
Think about it.
It really is that obvious.
Some things hide in plain sight.
Jersey's prosecution and judicial system IS a criminal enterprise.
And that hasn't been able to happen in an insular vacuum.
Stuart
Assassination .dont make me laugh
If that was going to happen it would have been done a long time ago( dilutional arsehole)
"dilutional arsehole"?
Hmmm....
The old IQ never was too hot, was it Jon.
Stuart
Stuart.
The JEP Editorial discredited by LENNY HARPER
http://youtu.be/0uCoqldzLJs
Another politician covering up abuse and murder
"dilutional arsehole" !!!
Perhaps I can help by confirming the self-diagnosis ?
I believe that the unfortunate "Jon" [if that is his name] suffers from this condition due to practising unsafe sex with himself while using a spellchecker.
The recommended treatment is to.... errr ... to kiss it better.
Hope this helps and you to stop annoying people
Love and kisses just here, x.
Yours,
Angus Withoutag
(yup -That's the spot !)
P.S.
To avoid recurrence, suggest you keep both hands on your keyboard
- Better still , get a life and don't spend all of it dribbling lubricant at your PC with your "thumb up you bum"
"All systems are open to having some corrupt people in them (usually do)~ but I'm trying to see how a corrupt system allows judges lawyers and accountants to get to court, have their arrests publicised by an alleged organ of state propaganda"
There may be some judges lawyers and accountants doing time at La Moye but it is also obvious some in these positions are always going to be more expendable than others, particularly individual lawyers and accountants.
I don't know the background of these people. But I would guess they originated from less well connected backgrounds. When they saw what was going on around them (always assuming they are guilty as charged) they were misguided enough to beleve they could pull the same tricks.
That is why I referred to 'insiders' in the previous post. These are the island's 'untouchables', way beyond the reaches of the law: ie the 20 year old son of the establishment grandee caught bringing commercial qualities of drugs through the airport.
Of course this will occur in any class system, but as Jersey is highly stratified this tendency is even more pronounced. Locals instinctively adapt to this reality even if they are not consciously aware of it - rather like walking or breathing.
Additionally the unfortunate souls you refer to had simply neglected to amass sufficient dirt for a 'get out of jail free' blackmail card and could be sacrificed to maintain the outward appearance of an unbiased judicial system.
No disrespect meant, your reasoning may be perfectly logical but I suspect you have yet to be exposed to Jersey's legal system. Long may that state of affairs persist...
Can anyone explain firstly has the Pottery as stated in the daily liar (jep)last evening,actually been sold to Dandara, has it been through court? the reason I ask is that when properties go through Court as ours did recently,the price is advertised in the daily liar at the end of each month,so why in an article last evening do they say that the potteries site has been sold to dandara for an undisclosed sum??
When the original potteries was extended a deal was done with some land to extend the car park.Has this deal been investigated to see if it should have been voided on this development or monies transferred to the Island as original owners of it?
the world is waking up http://youtu.be/Da6irSCvnZY
"the 20 year old son of the establishment grandee caught bringing commercial qualities of drugs through the airport."
Can I ask how this is known to be true? Or just another story? I have not heard any rumours.
The American Presidential elections, and associated primaries, are of great relevance to us - so much of American policy affects the rest of the world.
I'm happy to carry links to that democratic process and the various candidates (within reason) but doing so in no way implies that I necessarily agree with the individuals, policies or organisations in question.
Stuart
Citizen media at its best
I agree with your stance Stuart however take out the politics and in Ron Paul you have the only human feeling being in american politics today, He will win and the effects could well profound on everyone, its refreshing to see and hear a man with morals standing up in a cround of sycophantic sheep.
in tonights JEP Ofcom have not upheld Mr. Harpers complaints regarding CTV's award winning documentary.
And the reason?
The programme did not mention him and made no explicit implied critism of him.
Therefore....no need to interview Mr. Harper in the programme.
Mr. Harper it would seem,should not have put in a personal complaint about how he was portrayed but as to how the investigation was portrayed.
Or am i to understand from this Ofcom decision that an event can be unfairly reported on as long as no one is named !!
xJHB
"The only human feeling being in American politics today".
I instinctively get very nervous - when ever I hear any such irrational hyperbole about any political figure.
Especially one who is in the running for the most powerful job on Earth.
Beware the cult of the personality.
A frightened, angry and poor people - who derogated their capacity for individual rational thought, and were looking for some kind of superhuman savour - enabled Hitler to take power.
I'm not suggesting that Mr. Paul is such a figure - just saying that people should remember the lessons of history.
The most terrible lessons.
No individual - no "great leader" - will ever rescue and heal damaged, struggling societies. Only ordinary people - guided by reason, ethics, cooperation and morality can ever do that.
Stuart
Hello Tel Boy. The grammar as unique as ever, I see!
I trust you were able to amass a sufficient number of suitcases stuffed full of cash to keep you in comfort during your retirement?
Spend it whilst you've got it; that's my advice.
Stuart.
"the 20 year old son of the establishment grandee caught bringing commercial qualities of drugs through the airport"
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Stuart named the individual concerned on this site and is still to be sued.
Enough said.
I haven't named the individual in question - nor his father - or uncle - yet.
We're saving that for the appropriate forum.
Stuart
"I haven't named the individual in question - nor his father - or uncle - yet."
Hmmm...I wonder who that can be?
I stand corrected, you have not named
him here.
But having re-read the relevant post I know full well who is involved.
No wonder you take the death threats seriously.
Angus Fairhurst
Ha Ha .
Angus Fairhurst
Ha Ha .
What does that mean????
Stu, why do you allow comments like this through?
I don't know what it means either. Just curious.
Stuart
Googling Angus Fairhurst only reveals that he was one of the so-called 'Young British Artists' who emerged in the late 80s-early 90s.
In 2004 he was found hanging from a tree in Scotland, having apparently taken his own life.
There appears to be no connection to Jersey in either his private life or work.
It could be another death threat.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art-and-architecture/news/artist-behind-1990s-boom-commits-suicide-803101.html
Perhaps it's a death threat
A Trilogy Of Rib Ticklers
PART 1
Part 2
Part 3
Isn't reference to Angus Fiarhurst simply a comment on the comment by soneone using that name on the following blog? 13th commnet down. Sorry Web Guru dont do links, can you assist.
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3591695769525894359&postID=59666984228846932
Word verification "fledshe" . Now what very important word is that an anagram of????
JRCbean
With the thought of some many ,000s of tax payer's pounds going to the JEP is somewhat unnerving if all they do is {CTRL C} and {CTRL V} State propaganda.
A poster on another blog (can't recall which one now - sorry) suggested that State notifications could be uploaded to their website for pennies as well as being delivered to each household on a regular basis. And if that were to be done by Jersey Post then even better. I'd rather 'subsidise' Jersey Post that supplies a service to the whole of the island than The JE ... Bean ... Rag
The Beano is not the Rag
Angus Fairhurst Linky
The Beano is not the Rag
http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/01/matt-tapp-files-3.html
rs
Good news from Robert Green
http://holliedemandsjustice-robertgreensblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/angiolini-cited.html
Robert green gets ANGIOLINI in Court :)
Stuart.
Just what are the motives behind Ian Le Marquand's ACTIONS?
This LINK works a little better.
With a straight face and apparently without appreciating the satire the JEP labels Gradwell a one of those self sacrificing martyrs a 'WHISTLEBLOWER'
http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/comment/2012/01/10/policeman-who-blew-the-whistle/
Predictably the COM finks on the comment section are getting a free rein on there so for a laugh (January 15, 2012 at 9:38 am) I submitted the following:
=============================
A Cut&Paste above the rest!
Hi "Ian" @14,
Have you read a write up from a quality paper? This is one of many available:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6241652.ece
The bit at the end neatly avoids the issue of what was happening while the "small boy’s head [was made to] bob up and down in the water".
Gradwell and me are both have 'green fingers'.
Feed the Rose with horseshit and it will blossom copiously
:-P
==========================
I wonder if it will be published ?
Should I hold my breath - it only worked so long for "small boy"
Past experience suggests that as few as 1 in 10 "off message" comments actually get published on the JEP site, depending on the content and the subject area.
Hello Stuart, hope you are well.
are you still getting demands from the data protection office?
Hi Stuart,
Sorry to post this on your blog but am I the only one having trouble with accessing Ian Evans comments? on his blog site.
Ian is having trouble with his blog site as well, I think the Jersey Establishment hackers are at it again!
I am not surprised though as they know what I have in the pipeline :)
The JEP in 2010 received a reported £330,000 pounds in advertising revenue from the States. In 2011 the figure was down graded to £270,000 in fact nobody in the States knows.
The truth is much harder to dig up.
Each States department chief executive clinging on to his gold plated job wants completely honest reporting on how his department is doing, actually no, not really.
Each chief executive is free to spend his budget with a large degree of flexibility. The quango JFC places full page adverts at will, costing a reported £5,000 per page.
The education department can funnel money into the JEP like there is no tomorrow. All those courses, other departments do the same, heritage sites, tourism walks , public small notices etc.
With a falling circulation and more ( honest) information on line the JEP like the postal services is suffering from the effects of the internet. Both the JEP and the heads of States departments are propping each other up the States using taxpayers money.
This is where the Comptroller and Auditor general should be brought in to report back to Government on the raw cost of the working relationship of the States departments and the JEP. The problem being that politicians ( not all ) are more than happy to worship secrecy, so the report like the £50 million waterfront report will be kept secret, so members will not act even if hit over the head with a rolled up damming report.
How long will Islanders put up with this appalling state of affairs.
Anonymous.
"The JEP in 2010 received a reported £330,000 pounds in advertising revenue from the States. In 2011 the figure was down graded to £270,000 in fact nobody in the States knows.
The truth is much harder to dig up."
JEP know. First port of call would be for Treasury to simply require JEP to send them a statement of account, that can then be subject to some checking and verification. Anything missing at thier end or at States end would mean that it would be justifiable to dig deeper and investigate inconsistencies. JEP would need to be (fairly) honest in their response since they don't know where a challenge to the figures might come from within the states empire. Too many errors and they would just justify many peoples perception of them, and open up a bigger can of worms. Make them do the work first of all so it doesn't cost us anything more.
Any progressive polition out there willing to try and force this issue? Maybe scrutiny should do it?
JRCbean
Stuart.
HISTORIC
Talking of the filthy rag, Ben Q wrote a piece in Saturday's edition (14-1-12) running down Jersey politicians in general - headline "No one likes or trusts you"
While I could largely agree with it, towards the end I found this steaming lump of opinion-faeces :
"By the way, you're about to pay out milions upons millions of pounds to child abuse victims in civil compensation claims. That'll do wonders for the Island's image, right?"
Once again, the island - no, Island with a capital I because Jersey is all that matters, not the people in it - and its reputation is far more important than the failings of those who run the place.
A reader reports that Ben Queree of the JEP wrote the following:
"By the way, you're about to pay out millions upon millions of pounds to child abuse victims in civil compensation claims. That'll do wonders for the Island's image, right?"
Is that for real?
If that's an accurate quote, then Queree and The Rag plumb new depths.
If people are victims of child abuse - then they deserve compensation.
And - actually - how is finally acting justly towards child abuse survivors - after decades of shameful failure - supposed to be "bad" for Jersey's "reputation"?
JEP "values", eh?
To outside observers, it's worth noting this attempt by The Rag to demonise abuse survivors, and stir-up resentment against them. Expect more of this disgusting and reprehensible conduct - from the disgusting and reprehensible Ben Queree and his employers.
Hey, Ben and Chris and Rob and John - if the Jersey Evening Post had done its job - and made like a proper newspaper over the decades - so much of the child abuse would have been exposed and stopped - and there would be far fewer victims.
Maybe - if people like Ben Queree - had reported the evidenced facts - after I personally handed to him the Ministerial Comments that Philip Bailhache had illegally stopped from being published as a States Document - the truth would have been faced up to back in September 2007?
Maybe if Ben Queree and the JEP had done a detailed series of reports - based on the 16 appendices of hard, documented evidence that I had included in the report - the "reputation" of Jersey would have been protected from the behaviour of Jersey's authorities of the last four years?
Maybe the public of Jersey should be compensated by the Guiton Group and its managers?
Stuart
It's just as bad on their online forums "Have your say - if we let you".
They have a thread attacking Lenny Harper as usual, and if you try to reply to some blinkered fool that they should seek the truth from the local blogs, it won't get published.
Censorship. In 21st century western "Europe" (on the map, if not politically).
And yet, they're happy to publish comments like this one about last year's multiple stabbing tragedy :
"This incident has already cost the island a fortune in terms of both money and international embarrassment caused by outsider".
They try to make their censored forums look open and fair, but they are full of trolls, JEP insiders, Jon posting as "Rico" with the exact opposite of what the one and only Rico would say, and generally despicable idiots.
"This site is currently experiencing heavy usage.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused."
This on rag site,yea cos no one buys it anymore,heard today readership down from 25k to 14k,drip drip slow but sure!!!!
http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/2012/01/12/online-project-creates-100-jobs/
Interesting use of English on the board behind 'CM' Gorst
A reader submitted a comment about a certain politician tweeting their support for Ben Queree. I had a problem with the comment, so perhaps the reader would like to submit it again?
Stuart
UPDATE to & other commenters here
JEP#2 - A Cut&Paste above the rest!
Well whatdyknow ?
Well over 24hours later and the comment not published yet
Oh I see my mistake now: I included the word "horseshit" - silly me - after all on a thread relating to the long term child physical and sexual abuse (and historically even possibly the murder of children) we do not want any straight talking that could offend the sensitivities of the gullible reader now do we ?
Or it could be that the comment was dis-allowed/censored because the jep considers THE TIMES to be amongst the conspiracy theorists which already include poll topping politicians/former ministers and top police officers.
Maybe the JEP will eventually publish the comment if I tone it down enough or I taunt them enough on here?
Let' see: Comment resubmitted January 16, 2012 at 4:22 pm with the word "horseshit" replaced with "horse manure" -Let's see if the Rose and Co. prefer that.
I submit the comment to to you about the Deputy's tweet to Benfromthepaper
Richard Rondel@RichardRondelReply
Retweet
@BenFromThePaper I hope u feel better than when u wrote your new article in today's JEP, which, for some strange reason I very much enjoyed!
What did he mean?
So Richard Rondel supports the immoral and disgusting demonisation of abuse survivors?
Nothing changes, does it?
Another intake of States members - another collection morons and halfwits who prefer to protect corrupt, incompetent, dangerous and expensive civil servants - rather then protecting ordinary members of the public who are victims of our system of public administration
The government you deserve.
Stuart
He TALKS CRAP too!
Ben Querree wrote "By the way, you're about to pay out milions upons millions of pounds to child abuse victims in civil compensation claims. That'll do wonders for the Island's image, right?"
Paying money to people whose lives have been ruined is some small compensation for their pain and suffering. Most decent people would consider that does more for Jersey's image than the current simpering commercial we are bombarded with on television showing shiny happy Jersey folk (at least they have Jersey names unlike in Bergerac) having fun in the sun.
Lorna
In todays post we are given a Mr Rondel feature, 1/3 page article, page 3 no less. The Most promint position apart from front page.
Highlighting dog poo.
Rondel is new to the bighouse and so has to start from the bottom in this case the dogs bottom,he didn,t worry when his cows were sh--ing on the roads.54k a year and thats the best he can do well what a waste of votes.
Dear Mr. Syvret,
I hope you will not mind me copying your following quote as it sums up 'exactly' what could, would and should have been the case if ONLY the JEP had been inclined:
[Hey, Ben and Chris and Rob and John - if the Jersey Evening Post had done its job - and made like a proper newspaper over the decades - so much of the child abuse would have been exposed and stopped - and there would be far fewer victims.
Maybe - if people like Ben Queree - had reported the evidenced facts - after I personally handed to him the Ministerial Comments that Philip Bailhache had illegally stopped from being published as a States Document - the truth would have been faced up to back in September 2007?
Maybe if Ben Queree and the JEP had done a detailed series of reports - based on the 16 appendices of hard, documented evidence that I had included in the report - the "reputation" of Jersey would have been protected from the behaviour of Jersey's authorities of the last four years?
Maybe the public of Jersey should be compensated by the Guiton Group and its managers?]
When will these idiots ever realise that the general mass of the Jersey populace think they are a 'joke' of the very worst possible taste.
Below - is a most timely reminder of something I wrote in early 2011.
I mean, when judges in courts of law - base their judgments - upon the untested, unchallenged assertions of spin-doctors - even to the extent of quoting such material, well - then the wheels have come. Haven't they?
Stuart.
"I publish below an e-mail from the Jersey Chief Minister’s spin-doctor – Cathy Keir.
The e-mail was written to convey the States of Jersey policy on “precautionary suspensions”.
The “precautionary suspension” under consideration was that to be conducted against Graham Power.
This on the 24th September – nearly two months before the illegal suspension was carried out.
Nearly two months - before the supposed “sudden” and “emergency” suspension was enacted.
Setting aside the obvious questions – of just how it was your government - your politicians – were able to lie to you – to your parliament, by falsely stating the unlawful action against Graham Power had not been long-planned, and was instead an “emergency” action – ask another question:
Just what the hell is a spin-doctor doing – being involved – at least two months earlier – in plotting and conspiring to unlawfully remove from authority your Chief of Police?
From: Cathy Keir [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 24 September 2008 12:51
To: [addressee name removed]
Subject: Info as requested
********************************************
If this e-mail has been sent in error, please notify us immediately and delete this document. Please note the legal disclaimer which appears at the end of this message.
*******************************************
[greeting]
Here is information, as requested, re States policy on precautionary suspension.
‘Precautionary Suspension 24-09-2008.doc’
Cathy - Communications Unit
Chief Minister's Department
Cyril Le Marquand House
PO Box 140
St Helier
Jersey
JE4 8QT
T: +44(0)1534 440430
E: [email protected]
w. www.gov.je
http://www.gov.je/
F: 440408
http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/01/matt-tapp-files-4.html
RS
[heard today readership down from 25k to 14k,drip drip slow but sure!!!!]
If the above is true why are the States still paying such a large amount of money for advertising etc..
Surely lower readership means lower fees in much the same way as higher fees are normally charged when a paper/magazine increase readership.
£300,000 - scales down £168,000 - OBVIOUSLY IF TRUE THE STATES SHOULD PAY TO ADVERTISE ON VARIOUS BLOGS!!
It really does add up.
Only conclusion I can find is they chose to take matters out of police hands and gain control of Jerseys reputation.
The rag is the main way people get the news so the oligarchy need its propaganda machine running at full belt to keep all the bad news subdued and feed only the dribs and drabs of the mundane to the public. Without the rag the people of Jersey might get the actual and maybe unpalatable news.
Isn't this new era of free public communication fun Five Oaks? Not only is your world view becoming irrelevant, but facts talk and people are capable of reaching their own conclusion. Death by a thousand cuts. You will not be mourned in this house.
Can you please print the transcript of Baker saying he had read the Graham Power statement - which turned out to be a lie? I don't understand why he has never been done for it
Sure.
What Advocate Stephen Baker said - repeatedly - at various stages of the court proceedings - was that the evidence I was seeking disclosure of - including, expressly, the Graham Power statement - "would not be disclosed because it was of no relevance or assistance to the defence".
To have made such an assertion - when, in fact, key parts of that evidence in question had not even been considered by Baker - was a straightforward lie.
When time permits, sometime soon I am going to assemble all relevant parts of the transcripts, and post them together.
I'm doing that, because I am going to publish a specific blog-posting, which will be an open-letter to Advocate Stephen Baker - in which I am going to state the fact that he is a liar and a crook for lying about the evidence - and that if I'm wrong, he should sue me for defamation.
And, it's no surprise he hasn't "been done" as you put it. Who would do him? His friend and pay-master, who he was representing, the Attorney General?
The judges, perhaps, who have already supported him in denying me a fair trial, and who are friends of the Bailhache brothers and Michael Birt?
The Jersey Law Society? That's even more hysterical. An organisation that still embodies the conflicted roles of representing the profession - and its regulation. A state of affairs that was abandoned a long time ago in England.
Come along.
The reason Jersey is in this mess is because the entire apparatus of law enforcement and administration of justice has been long-since captured by a partisan claque.
Hell - I'd fully expect to lose the defamation action - notwithstanding the evidenced, immutable facts.
I'd probably find the evidence and my defence case being suddenly deemed "inadmissible" - because they had no answer to it.
Just like in the prosecution against me.
What a collection of gangsters.
Stuart
"What Advocate Stephen Baker said - repeatedly - at various stages of the court proceedings - was that the evidence I was seeking disclosure of - including, expressly, the Graham Power statement - "would not be disclosed because it was of no relevance or assistance to the defence".
To have made such an assertion - when, in fact, key parts of that evidence in question had not even been considered by Baker - was a straightforward lie. "
The Scottish gangsters are trying to pull off the same trick in Robert Greens trial.
and the winner of the most obnoxious blog comment
goes to
Jons' purulent merkin
I`m glad ,Stuart ,that you are back again.Keep your principles !
You never would have been send into La Moye PR.,if the ruling governent of J.would be real democratic.I really hope, that the people of Jersey will be able to change something in Jersey. But it makes me frightened that some Jersey citizens favourise somebody coming up like "Phoenix from the ashes"-telling people: GIVE ME YOUR VOTE,-and YOU`LL BE FREE! And you need no laws anymore! All my "inside-alarm-bells" are ringing, to hear those words! Antje A.Seeger
More ignorant spew from the Filthy JEP Rag, this time from Paula Thelwell :
"The problem with our crop of politicians – with thankfully a few notable exceptions – is the system that elects them, which produces a diversity that is counter-productive to consistent government."
Looks like she's swallowed the Bailhache ideology - hook, line and sinker.
Diversity is bad? Are these buffoons serious? Diversity of opinion exists amongst the community, and if politicians are representing us democratically, how can there NOT be a diversity of opinion in there?
Have these would-be dictators not heard of the term "healthy debate"?
I despair for our island when idiots like these are free to spread their ignorant and vile ideas while opposing views are stifled. (Try defending Lenny Harper on the attack-him thread, with actual facts, and surprise surprise it will be censored!)
If you have got the transcripts of when Baker untruthfully said he had read the Graham Power statement, why don't you quote them now chapter and verse?
Because I'm going to quote them - and the correspondence - in detail, in a substantive posting at a later date.
As already explained above.
Do pay attention. I know Jersey oligarchy supporters aren't noted for their IQ, but one would expect an attention-span somewhat longer than that of a goldfish.
In the mean time - I have more important legal matters to be addressed, that I won't be distracted from.
But if you are waiting for your heroes to sweep down from Olympus and crush me in their courts - they're perfectly able to try and do that already.
I've publicly stated above that Advocate Stephen Baker is a liar and a crook. I'm looking forward to the Order of Justice for defamation as I type.
In fact, if he gets his skates on, he could succeed in injuncting me, to prevent the substantive posting from being published. And hell, let's face it - it's not as though any court in in Jersey is ever going to decide against him.
Likewise, I'm still waiting for a similar Order of Justice from Barry Faudemer - who - as I pointed out previously - committed straightforward perjury during the prosecution.
Don't think your friends need to be waiting on me, they can press all the necessary buttons right now.
To use the "polite" vernacular, so favoured of the Jersey oligarchy - proceed to make an attempt should you consider yourself sufficiently resilient.
Stuart
Before she worked for a short period for that most "venerated and esteemed" Jersey institution the Heritage Trust, an organisation that has always maintained very close links to the Bailiff's office, Paula Thelwell was known as the JEP journo who wrote glowing reports about the JHT.
Now she has returned to the paper and looks like she will have no problems towing the official state / bailhache party line.
Its all in a days work for a JEP lifer.
ref. Paula Thelwell : "The problem with our crop of politicians – with thankfully a few notable exceptions – is the system that elects them, which produces a diversity that is counter-productive to consistent government."
Looks like she's swallowed the Bailhache ideology - hook, line and sinker.
So meaningful elections can stay in the past or in our dreamland, along with egalitarian government.
It is laughable how the main thrust of Bailhache's election campaign (aided by Thelwell's stable) claimed that the lack of consistent government was due to the OPPOSITION - pmsl
Turns out that there are a lot of gullible sheep (17,000 ?) in Jersey so the Joke is on all of us !
The opposition needs to be organised and it needs a voice to counter JEP
A bunch of independents is not an opposition - how many could unite under a 'democratic liberal' banner?
"liberal" is actually used as an insult by many posters on the JEP site and by some of the pillars of Jersey society.
Stuart,
JRCbean posting Monday, 16 January 2012 08:53:00 GMT tells us that :
JEP know. First port of call would be for Treasury to simply require JEP to send them a statement of account, that can then be subject to some checking and verification.
Why should the JEP when not part of criminal proceedings give up financial information on probably its best paying customer the States departments.
This is commercially sensitive information that cannot be passed on.
States quangos love quoting this phrase when trying to fob off enquiring minds. This is one of the reasons that data protection has been rolled out to be used when Government and companies need a wall to hide behind.
Nice and simple remedy JRCbean but completely unworkable.
Also the £50 million pound report although put on the map by John Le Fondre, is still not for public reading as far as I am aware. Hence my comment above.
Anonymous.
Anonymous - if you are in any doubt as to what Stuart says about Baker, several interested parties were sat in on both Court sessions and can confirm 100% what was said on both occasions.
I am sure Stuart will come up with the 'goodies' in his own good time.
If Baker is as much of a brute as you say he is, I guess he won't care if you call him a liar. I am really looking forward to reading the transcripts that prove he is. Then the doubters will have to eat their words.
"Why should the JEP when not part of criminal proceedings give up financial information on probably its best paying customer the States departments."
Doh! (_8(|)
Anon are you stupid? Do you not understand a client / service provide relationship? States of Jersey Treasury is the client. JEP is the service provider. Why should said client not demand a statement of account from its service provider to justify expenditure????? Its like asking JEC to explain your electricity bill. A perfectly reasonable request.
In this case just requires a polition to pressurise treasury minister to require this information from them.
JRCbean
Paula T used to be a member of the Jersey branch of the English Labour Party and sought to form a branch here. I presume that she has given up on that idea.
Don't know if there ever was a local membership list but it is odd how some people flirt with political parties - especially those from other jurisdictions.
The attempts at forming a "Lib Dem" faction are still limping along. Does anybody know how many other UK or EU based parties claim to exist here?
Danny's going to blab soon!!!!
I understand that Bailhache has been advocating the virtues of executive government for Guernsey, obviously using Jersey as a fine example.
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One problem when a government has too many people who govern/rule by influence of wealth and /or bullying by exclusion etc.., they are the ones that run companies like a dictatorship. Whereas a true leader of people, does so with insight, empathy, integrity, for and totally on behalf the citizens, those people have the long lasting support of the overwhelming public.
Bailache should not even be in the States!
Tom Gruchy, there is certainly a list of locals in the Labour party (I know because I am on it), but I don't know if the list is public. I was once contacted by the Labour Party who were asking around to find someone to go on the BBC and give the UK Labour Parties view on a Jersey issue (I declinded because I was new to the party and didn't want to speak on their behalf). The fact that it was the UK branch that contacted me makes me think there is no longer an official Jersey branch.
I don't think there is anything odd about liking the parties. Lots of people identify with their philosophies and enjoy hearing what they have to say and think that that system would be good for Jersey.
I think starting parties in Jersey that are just branches of the UK parties is a bad idea because of all the negative associations there will be with with their national policies (and this is particularly true with the Lib Dems). They would have to have their own independent identity.
JEP#3 - A Cut&Paste above the rest!
Check out:
http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/comment/2012/01/10/policeman-who-blew-the-whistle/
#20 "Baz Du Mont" January 17, 2012 at 9:56 am & well done !
"JAR/30: 3-4; 1940s to 1980s. Two fragments of burnt bone one is fragment of longbone? Tibia. Submitted to University of Sheffield with KSH/158. Origin confirmed as human. Submitted for dating awaiting results.
JAR/33: 3-4; 1940s to 1980’s.
Calcined fragment of bone. ?human................."
too many bone fragments to repeat here.
The above details had not been published at 2:09pm when we get a PRICELESS post @21 by "JPG" : "Denial of what? If you don’t trust the police to do their work because they ultimately run the show then write a complaint."
I bet "JPG" feels a bit stupid now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is JPG really a police officer in the honoraries and are those perhaps his initials ?
Thank you JEP for doing the right thing on this occasion we will continue to watch carefully. The world has changed and any media organisation that censors information or opinions will ultimately damage itself. The truth that can come out will come out. Many of the bone fragments are old and many mysteries will remain
I did notice that this story was removed from the most commented list a couple of days ago - perhaps they hope no one will see it -or perhaps it might re-appear ?
I still have not had my comment published but perhaps knowing that they are being watched has improved their view.
Thank you JEP. People can (rightly) question details of "Baz Du Mont's" post and I hope that people have time and information available to support "Baz" if necessary - save your posts & any unfairly censored posts should be posted here (if that's OK & best Stuart?)
It will be interesting "Baz Du Mont's" comment at #20 gets removed.
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